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Hard starting question #1015592 12/19/10 03:47 PM
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bingocouple Offline OP
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When I go out to start my sportage, I turn the key and turns over, and over again for about 25-30+ seconds before it finally starts. You have to keep the starter going or it will never start. I know this is bad for the starter to be run for that long of a time. Is that just how Kia's start? Or is there something I can do to get it to turn over faster? Shouldnt the starter turn very quickly? Thanks in advance.

Re: Hard starting question [Re: bingocouple] #1015593 12/19/10 05:55 PM
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DennisThompson Offline
Body Damage is Cool
If your starter is turning realy slow you need to have your battery chacked, cables checked and the alternator. If they are good you probably need a new starter. When they start going out they draw alot more amps. If its turning ok but wont start try a full tune up and clean your intake, mas air sensor, throtle body and idle control valve with a spray fuel injector cleaner.

hope this helps, Dennis


95 Sportage, gone but not forgotten.
98 Jeep TJ, 4" Zone springs with RC Long arms, Ford 8.8", 4.56 gears & Detroit locker rear, D30, 4.56 & Detroit Trutrack front.
Re: Hard starting question [Re: DennisThompson] #1015594 12/20/10 04:54 AM
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Sportege_Panicmech Offline
Mudrunner
Ya, test your battery. Sounds like a weak battery if the starter turns slow. If it still takes a long time to start with a good battery then you have other issues. Jumping it would give it a similiar effect to having a good battery.

Re: Hard starting question [Re: bingocouple] #1015595 12/20/10 06:39 AM
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DamKia Offline
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If the starter is turning slower than it should then try jump starting with another vehicle to see if it starts quicker. If so then as above, new battery and/or looking at your charging circuit and cables. (winter is when most batteries fail)

If the jumping does not speed up the starting time (as in still takes 20-30 second) then look at your fuel pressure regulator. If this is allowing say 90% of the pressure to bleed out of the system when it is stopped it may take a while to prime the lines again, leading to your starting delay. The fact that you can get it to run means you have enough capacity in the fuel pump to run the vehicle. Try leaving the ignition on for 30 seconds before turning to "start" position on the ignition and see if that makes a difference to the time it takes to actually start. If it does then it is almost certainly your regulator.


2002 Sporty , Ironman 2.5" spring, 2" body, 15 x 7 ROH wheels, K&N, 15 x 10.5 Simex Centipedes, Powerchip 91.

"Never argue with an idiot. They will bring you down to their level then beat you with experience!"
Re: Hard starting question [Re: DamKia] #1015596 12/20/10 08:10 AM
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Sportege_Panicmech Offline
Mudrunner
Or a faulty check ball in the fuel line (not return)? Have heard of this happening in Domestics. Don't know how the Kia's Fuel system works honestly as we usually don't have fuel related problems. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/butwiggle.gif" alt="" /> to chevy. (sorry, i owned a few and they both needed multiple pumps).

Re: Hard starting question [Re: Sportege_Panicmech] #1015597 12/20/10 03:47 PM
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bingocouple Offline OP
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Once I get it started it takes a bit for it to warm up. When driving I step on the gas and it seems to bogg down a bit and then it will pick up slowly. Could that be the fuel filter also?

Re: Hard starting question [Re: DamKia] #1015598 12/20/10 03:51 PM
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bingocouple Offline OP
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Ok, I will give that a try this morning. I will let you know. Thanks for all the tips guys, I havent gotten my repair manual in the mail yet. Wednesday I am changing out my timing belt, water pump and tensioners. BTW should I take the spark plugs out when changing the timing belt? So I can turn the motor over easier by hand.

Re: Hard starting question [Re: bingocouple] #1015599 12/20/10 10:37 PM
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I took my plugs out when I did mine about a month ago.
Made it a lot easier for sure. Was still a pain to get the belt on in the right spot. All in all this was not as hard as I thought it would be. Not saying it was fun...lol

Good Luck and let us know how it goes.

Re: Hard starting question [Re: bingocouple] #1015600 12/21/10 11:20 AM
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2002_Sporty Offline
Mudrunner
Before you go and replace the Batterie and Alternator have them checked.
I go to the shop and they charge me 15 bucks or so to hook up my alternator and batterie to this voltage reader to tell me if my batterie will hold a charge.
Then monitor the batterie when the vehicle is running to see if the charge lost from the vehicle components is being recharged by the alternator.

I also Googled the temperatures in Oregon. The generic site said your state has between 30 and 40 degree temperatures now.

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Cold and your Sportage:

1. Cold slows the chemical reaction in the Sporty's battery, reducing its power output. Battery output is usually rated at 77?F. Below that temperature and the power drops drastically. At about 5?F a fully charged lead-acid battery has only half its rated amp-hour capacity. Keeping the battery warm will allow the engine to crank and start faster, and prevent flooding. Electric battery blankets keep a battery warm. So will a small trickle charger.

2. Oil thickens when it's cold, which increases friction and makes it harder for the starter motor to spin the engine. Keeping the engine warm by using a block heater and oil pan heater also helps starting, but another major benefit is reduced engine wear. Warm parts allow engine oil to flow easier into critical areas. Most engine wear occurs in the first couple minutes after a cold start. Rich fuel mixtures wash lubrication from the cylinder walls. Thick oil doesnÆt spray onto moving parts as easily, so using winter grade oil will help reduce engine wear. OwnerÆs manuals list oil viscosity best suited for cold winter driving.

3. If you smell gas while trying to start your Sporty and the engine has been cranking far too long, then the engine may be flooded. This means that there is too much gasoline in the cylinders and the spark plugs are wet, causing the spark to go across the insulator instead of across the electrodes. Putting the gas pedal to the floor during cranking will turn off most fuel injection so that the flooded engine can be ôclearedö, but the engine may still not start unless it is warmed up and the spark plugs are changed.

4. Tires, transmission, wheel bearings and other moving parts all need warm up time. The catalytic converter doesn't function at its peak until it reaches between 400?C and 800?C. Although it is safe to drive your Sporty after a cold start, it is important to avoid high speeds and rapid acceleration for the first two to three miles. The goal is to bring the whole vehicle up to peak operating temperature as quickly as possible while maximizing fuel economy.

Cold Starting Sportage Engine:

1. It is important, when starting your Sporty in extremely cold weather, not to flood the engine or kill the battery.
2. You won't need to pump the gas at all, because a computer chip runs the injectors for optimum gas flow.
3. Turn the key. If the engine doesn't turn over in five seconds, turn off and wait a few seconds. Try, Try Again. But don't kill the battery. Use your listening ears.
4. Once Started: Allow a minute for the oil to thin out and get pumping; Oil settles in an engine, thickens and coagulates.
5. While Driving: Running high RPMs with cold oil creates an unpleasant metal-on-metal environment which is detrimental to an engine's health. Once the engine is warm, it can be run like any other time. "Like You Stole It"

If the Damn thing still don't start then push the heap into a garage and let it thaw out/warm up. Charge battery & pray.


2002 4dr Kia Sportage 4X4
Tires:235/75/15, Wheels: Black 15x8 Steel ProComp 2.5" B.S., Hubs:Warn Manual, Lift:3" UPYOURKIA, Trailer Hitch, Cargo Rack, Clinometer.
Re: Hard starting question [Re: 2002_Sporty] #1015601 12/21/10 03:43 PM
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bingocouple Offline OP
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ok guys I tried turning on the key and waiting 30-45 seconds before turning over the motor, still no change. Wednesday I am going to change the plug, timing belt , water pump and everything else that is needed to completethe overhaul. I am going to change out the battery cables and see if that helps at all.

Could it be just a timing issue? Right now I am getting approx 20mpg, but it sounds like I am missing a one cylinder, when I come to a stop the engine lopes a bit then settles down.

Is the clutch adjustable? My clutch engages at about 3/4" off the floor. Is the pedal adjustable?

I know it is alot of questions, but I would appreciate any help. Thanks again.

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