Billions overbudget and 3 years late. This article in the LA Times is amazing. They gave specifications instead of blueprints to outsource contractors <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/zombie.gif" alt="" /> Then wondered what went wrong with the parts don't fit together! Maybe there is hope for the US job market rejecting outsourcing.

http://articles.latimes.com/2011/feb/15/business/la-fi-hiltzik-20110215


"We gave work to people that had never really done this kind of technology before, and then we didn't provide the oversight that was necessary," Jim Albaugh, the company's commercial aviation chief

Yeah no kidding !

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Well if one of 'em falls apart while they're cold weather testing them up here this month, we'll know why. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/ignore.gif" alt="" />

Got 2 of 'em sitting at FAI right now; came in earlier this week.

3 years late and billions over?

Sounds like an SAP implementation. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" />

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Just to prove they are just as bad everywhere, this was a combined IBM and SAP version that was inflicted on our health system payroll

http://www.couriermail.com.au/money/mone...r-1225872266827

Still not right after one year....

It is common in government:

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/15/us/politics/15fence.html?_r=1

If you're expecting an SAP implementation to be right within a year, good luck with that. On average the projects I get involved in take 2-5 years minimum.

I can say that Boeing is somewhat reversing its stance on outsourcing, even investing in additions on some of its U.S. manufacturing plants and of course, building new ones, although in non-union states.

But make no mistake. The overall trend will not end. What the article fails to mention is BoeingÆs largest customers are foreign customers, with U.S. airlines having all but collapsed. And in most major customer nations, the government is integrated into the airline business as well as most other businesses of those nations. Therefore, to convince foreign airlines to purchase Boeing airplanes, instead of Airbus airplanes, Boeing has to curry favor with the governments of those nations. And that most often takes place by giving technology and jobs to them.

So how does Airbus sell airplanes. They also give away some manufacturing, but on a more limited basis. Airbus has more direct ties to the government of the EU and those ties can involve giving different kinds of benefits to foreign countries than Boeing would be able too, such as preferential treatment to airlines who fly to Europe and buy Airbus products.

This is why outsourcing will never end at Boeing. The only lesson they learned was not that outsourcing was a failure, but simply that they did it wrong. Too much, too fast. They wonÆt make that mistake again, but they wonÆt stop either.

IMO, Eventually Boeing airplanes wonÆt even be assembled here, much less have the parts made here. But that timeline has definitely be postponed by a few more years.

SAP is on the 10 biggest ERP failure list....4 times <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" />

http://www.cio.com/article/486284/10_Famous_ERP_Disasters_Dustups_and_Disappointments


As far as outsourcing, well GM sold more cars in China that the USA last year. We are a mature market, they are still wild west. Things will even out in the long run.