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 Re: Buy / Fix / Fix - Need some tips and advice from gearhead friends
[Re: rxinhed]
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02/21/11 04:59 AM
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Joined: Mar 2007
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Getting the Wheeling Fever
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Russell,
Because I love you, you know I'll support what ever choice you make.
I would (but I'm not you) see what Roxie needs, sell the big Red Chevy and go from there.
Melinda
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Re: Buy / Fix / Fix - Need some tips and advice from gearhead friends
[Re: rxinhed]
#1021189
02/22/11 06:53 AM
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Joined: May 2000
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My experiance on adding a turbo in CA...
It took me a few weeks to round up parts and build the engine.
Two weeks to do the swap and get everything set up.
Getting smog legal was not that hard.
I had a reliable daily driver while I did the swap. This was my third turbo swap.
I had plenty of spare time, weekends and nights to do the work. Six to eight weeks start to finish while working a full time job.
Possible to build a turbo engine and bolt the carb on it. You can always add the turbo parts later.
Kevin
87 Turbo Intercooled Raider, roller cam, torsen rear diff, LSD front diff, lockup auto with modified converter, V6 brakes, low transfer case gears...
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Re: Buy / Fix / Fix - Need some tips and advice from gearhead friends
[Re: Witsubishi]
#1021190
02/22/11 07:14 AM
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Joined: Jan 2000
Posts: 16,227
Web Wheeler
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Russell,
Because I love you, you know I'll support what ever choice you make.
I would (but I'm not you) see what Roxie needs, sell the big Red Chevy and go from there.
Melinda I'm not married but know enough to agree with your wife on this. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cyclops.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" />
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Re: Buy / Fix / Fix - Need some tips and advice from gearhead friends
[Re: Kevin C]
#1021191
02/22/11 08:35 AM
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Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 3,272
Roll Me Over
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My experiance on adding a turbo in CA...
Getting smog legal was not that hard.
Kevin Kevin, What year was this? Just curious because things have changed a bit over the last couple of years. I'm not saying this would, or wouldn't, be any more difficult than any other swap. The BAR refs just aren't much fun right now, to be honest.
73 -Jon KJ6GVM As seen on Expedition with TX plates: VEGETARIAN - An old Indian word for poor hunter Grampa's Trooper 1974 FJ40 1987 FJ60
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Re: Buy / Fix / Fix - Need some tips and advice from gearhead friends
[Re: Oyaji_Jon]
#1021192
02/22/11 04:50 PM
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Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 13,649
Web Wheeler
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If you're gonna fix it, turbo it at the same time. On the smog issue, I'd use all the donor emission parts, including the underhood vapor valves and canister, and all the donor ignition. If the donor year is equal to the recipient year or newer, the state should be happy. I'd just smile and look at them and say "It's the same 4G54B engine and it hooked up just like the old one <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />.
Not responsible for advice not taken...
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Re: Buy / Fix / Fix - Need some tips and advice from gearhead friends
[Re: Oyaji_Jon]
#1021193
02/23/11 05:06 AM
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Joined: May 2000
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My experiance on adding a turbo in CA...
Getting smog legal was not that hard.
Kevin Kevin, What year was this? Just curious because things have changed a bit over the last couple of years. I'm not saying this would, or wouldn't, be any more difficult than any other swap. The BAR refs just aren't much fun right now, to be honest. I did the swap about 5 years ago. The inspector was also an instructor on smog inspections... Kind of the like the Darth Vader of smog. I did have to go back a second time for a couple of small items. And he went through every detail of the swap, including pulling out the manuals on the donor engine. Don't know if it's changed, but I was OK as long as I followed the regulations. I got dinged for having a non stock cross over pipe and too many braided stainless steel hoses. He let the hoses slide, but the crossover pipe had top go back to stock and my MDS box was missing its CARB sticker, so it had to go. What won me points was the install was clean looking and everything was hooked up. It also was running very well. This guy was in Santa Barbara, I'm sure experiance varies depending on who you get. Never know... If I tried it again if they would bust my chops or not. I moved so I'm not trying again. The smog station in SB is part of the community college so the ref was using my swap to train other refs and auto techs.
87 Turbo Intercooled Raider, roller cam, torsen rear diff, LSD front diff, lockup auto with modified converter, V6 brakes, low transfer case gears...
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Re: Buy / Fix / Fix - Need some tips and advice from gearhead friends
[Re: Kevin C]
#1021194
02/23/11 05:38 AM
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Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 3,272
Roll Me Over
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My experiance on adding a turbo in CA...
Getting smog legal was not that hard.
Kevin Kevin, What year was this? Just curious because things have changed a bit over the last couple of years. I'm not saying this would, or wouldn't, be any more difficult than any other swap. The BAR refs just aren't much fun right now, to be honest. I did the swap about 5 years ago. The inspector was also an instructor on smog inspections... Kind of the like the Darth Vader of smog. I did have to go back a second time for a couple of small items. And he went through every detail of the swap, including pulling out the manuals on the donor engine. Don't know if it's changed, but I was OK as long as I followed the regulations. I got dinged for having a non stock cross over pipe and too many braided stainless steel hoses. He let the hoses slide, but the crossover pipe had top go back to stock and my MDS box was missing its CARB sticker, so it had to go. What won me points was the install was clean looking and everything was hooked up. It also was running very well. This guy was in Santa Barbara, I'm sure experiance varies depending on who you get. Never know... If I tried it again if they would bust my chops or not. I moved so I'm not trying again. The smog station in SB is part of the community college so the ref was using my swap to train other refs and auto techs. Tanks for the insight, Kevin. What won me points was the install was clean looking and everything was hooked up. It also was running very well. This part has not changed. If it LOOKS like it belongs in there, they tend toward ALLOWING it in there. My run at it is coming soon. Sorry for the hijack...
73 -Jon KJ6GVM As seen on Expedition with TX plates: VEGETARIAN - An old Indian word for poor hunter Grampa's Trooper 1974 FJ40 1987 FJ60
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Re: Buy / Fix / Fix - Need some tips and advice from gearhead friends
[Re: Oyaji_Jon]
#1021195
02/23/11 06:59 AM
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Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 7,458
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"Hi, Jack!"...as he was carted off...
No worries, Jon. That's what this thread can lead to, and I welcome the exchange. If the park management will let me, I may pull the head tomorrow afternoon, following work. It's supposed to snow in P'ville this week and I don't care for wrenching in the snow..then off to Denver, CO for next week.
On the one hand, I hope my Raider repairs are simple. On the other hand, I really like Colin's truck from the pics he's sent...and the extra parts!!
R-
1987 Raider - Roxy
1988 Mighty Max 2.6L Turbo - Pearl
1997 Mountaineer V8 - Freddy
2000 Excursion V10 - Freya
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Re: Buy / Fix / Fix - Need some tips and advice from gearhead friends
[Re: rxinhed]
#1021196
03/04/11 04:11 AM
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Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 7,458
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None of the pieces I removed from Roxy the Raider last weekend should be reinstalled. All three heads that I have are cracked, the exhaust manifold came off in three basic pieces, and the valve cover had a stripped bolt for the throttle cable. Writing from Denver, CO, I am making arrangements to see Colin's Mighty Max this weekend...especially the cache of parts he has. Will I like a MM Turbo and will it hold 33s? One can only speculate until I see it up close. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
1987 Raider - Roxy
1988 Mighty Max 2.6L Turbo - Pearl
1997 Mountaineer V8 - Freddy
2000 Excursion V10 - Freya
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Re: Buy / Fix / Fix - Need some tips and advice from gearhead friends
[Re: rxinhed]
#1021197
03/04/11 06:53 PM
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Joined: May 2007
Posts: 580
Rock Warrior
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bummer about the cracked heads, but don't give up on roxy.
sounds like a family pet.
if the max is a runner and registrateable(has good papers and will smog), it would be easier in the short term.
wrenching in the snow and rain is for kids. remember?
'94 "tracker", with some parts from suzi the psychic.
other modifications made, with more to come.
some intentional.
suzitoo should get me fishing.
kj6esv
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