ok, heres an update on my ner ending battle. Spoke to a kia tech today who said it was timing, cam or crank sensor. I tore it back down and checked the timing once more. perfect. Replaced the cam sensor, nothing. I hate to buy a crank sensor if that isnt it, because they wont take it back. would that do what i am explaining? cranks for 20 seconds then slowly starts firing until it starts? when it idles there is a slight miss.