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Exhaust flamethrower help #1023585 03/22/11 12:54 AM
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0778drz110 Offline OP
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Surely there are a few that know about this.

Carb 4cylinder
original exhaust

1. I added a relay, toggle switch, coil, and sparkplug about 6-7" from the tip. Sparks good and quick. No flames because the catalytic converter is still on the car.

2. Added propane injection using a torch and a hose about 12" from the end. Removed the nozzle for a 3/16ish hole and had the regulator wide open. Still no flames.

There seems to be some steam in the exhaust(water in the muffler or gas?) that caused one spark plug to go out. Replaced with another plug.
How can I get it to ignite? A better spark? Or do I need more oxygen?

I really don't care if its stupid, I've spent almost $100 I just wanted some decent results. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" />

Last edited by 0778drz110; 03/22/11 01:03 AM.

'88 Raider, 33" Maxxis, 2" body lift, 10K winch
Re: Exhaust flamethrower help [Re: 0778drz110] #1023586 03/22/11 01:19 AM
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More O2.

John B.

Re: Exhaust flamethrower help [Re: JohnnyBfromPeoria] #1023587 03/22/11 01:49 AM
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0778drz110 Offline OP
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How? I made some fins on it, but they just blow the air right out. Maybe the fins are too big? They seem a bit large. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />[Linked Image]


'88 Raider, 33" Maxxis, 2" body lift, 10K winch
Re: Exhaust flamethrower help [Re: 0778drz110] #1023588 03/22/11 03:37 AM
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I've done this during my mis-spent youth. In the pre-cat days, we'd pull one plug wire off the engine, and extend it to near the end of the tailpipe. The unburnt charge from the the unplugged cylinder would catch fire at the rear of the tailpipe plug and blow out a good 3' flame, pulsating, freq dependent on engine speed.

I'd tune the added oxygen amount with a sleeve on the exh pipe with slots = to the tailpipe slots, and turn the sleeve to adjust the pipe opening and thus the air pulled in. You gotta hit close to stoichiometric mix to get ignition.


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Re: Exhaust flamethrower help [Re: 0778drz110] #1023589 03/23/11 06:27 AM
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How? I made some fins on it, but they just blow the air right out. Maybe the fins are too big? They seem a bit large. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />[Linked Image]


>>>*...*LOL**...Man. Hey, drill a hole on the upstream side of the fuel inlet, move it farther back, say at least a couple of feet.

Not enough Oxygen because of the exhaust volume. If all else fails, hook up an Oxygen tank, that should do it.

*We will all be watching the online news.... <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" />...*EB


*Beats the he** outa me!....*LOL**...
Re: Exhaust flamethrower help [Re: engnbldr] #1023590 03/23/11 10:45 PM
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Headline in the Sarasota Herald-Tribune:

"Flame Throwing Terrorist Captured After Low Speed Chase" ... <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" />


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Re: Exhaust flamethrower help [Re: 0778drz110] #1023591 03/24/11 12:18 AM
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...I've spent almost $100 I just wanted some decent results. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" />


Sorry to bring you bad news, but there's a kit available that's only $125. http://www.thehoffmangroup.com/autoloc/c...0A47DYuX2BA11D8

Can't say the kit's a good one. I found it in about 1 minute after doing a google search for exhaust flame thrower diy. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" />

Re: Exhaust flamethrower help [Re: off-roader] #1023592 03/24/11 04:10 AM
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0778drz110 Offline OP
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...I've spent almost $100 I just wanted some decent results. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" />


Sorry to bring you bad news, but there's a kit available that's only $125. http://www.thehoffmangroup.com/autoloc/c...0A47DYuX2BA11D8

Can't say the kit's a good one. I found it in about 1 minute after doing a google search for exhaust flame thrower diy. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" />

That doesn't come with a coil, plug wire, bung, or spark plug. I made a "control box" using a 5 pin relay, wiring, and switch for less than $15. If I wanted to bolt one on I would have bought a jeep. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

The problem is tuning this thing to make it work right. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" />


'88 Raider, 33" Maxxis, 2" body lift, 10K winch
Re: Exhaust flamethrower help [Re: fasteddy] #1023593 03/24/11 04:17 AM
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0778drz110 Offline OP
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Headline in the Sarasota Herald-Tribune:

"Flame Throwing Terrorist Captured After Low Speed Chase" ... <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" />

Ha! <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" /> "Flame throwing car fails to work from poor engineering"

I'm thinking if I gut the catalytic converter and cut the ignition it should pump enough air and fuel + propane to ignite. I keep finding dead ends when I search how to do this successfully. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />


'88 Raider, 33" Maxxis, 2" body lift, 10K winch
Re: Exhaust flamethrower help [Re: 0778drz110] #1023594 03/24/11 11:01 AM
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That doesn't come with a coil, plug wire, bung, or spark plug. I made a "control box" using a 5 pin relay, wiring, and switch for less than $15. If I wanted to bolt one on I would have bought a jeep. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

The problem is tuning this thing to make it work right. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" />


OK, here's a 'COMPLETE' kit for $119... http://www.eatmyflames.com/exhaust_flame_thrower_kits.php
And another one for $89... http://www.slsperformance.com/slsp/ProductDetail.asp?idProduct=742&bSelectOption=T

Just trying to point out there are inexpensive kits that will likely not need as much tuning making them easier to do.

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