Thank's Jeff.

I ran Chinaman's today with no problems. However I did skip that short rock garden on the right.

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Does your assessment of Chinaman's include that optional section? (The guy pictured took the hardest line possible for those unfamiliar with the trail. The normal line is 1/2 as big.)

I want to add Iron Chest to my Resume' but it can wait. Like I said i'd be happy to lead some folks on something else while the big dogs play on the Chest.

'87 4Runner. '83 Honda XL250R. No mods on either.