Here is what I got in my office today:

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this has been proven to not do anything, its all a scam. the only way we can get gas prices to go down is to actually stop driving!!

all this does is force the gas stations to be busy on the night of the 14th making them extra money which they would have made on the 15th anyways....its stupid.

Yep, does nothing.

If you could convince Canadians to stop driving for a month, or even a week, (not just delaying their eventual gas purchase a few hours, which does absolutely nothing, you will buy the fuel eventually anyway.) That would have a huge effect, since there would be increasing supply but no demand.

Refineries rely on constant input of oil and output of refined oil products (fuel.) One day of delay will do nothing since the gas is already sitting in the tanks at the gas station. A solid week or month of no deliveries from the refinery, the stockpile reservoirs will fill up, the refineries will drop prices to sell it off. Then you see lower prices at the pumps. This only works as long as demand stays low and supply is high.

The opposite is what happens every spring/summer when the farmers buy up all the diesel. Supply goes down, and so the price goes up.

The only way the status quo will ever change is if everyone uses less fuel, year round.

Agree, it did not scare oil companies but at least it could show them we are not happy and we can be organized.
Supply-demand...Agree. It is a basic economics. What we see here is a conspiracy. Drive along the city and see THE SAME price. ESSO-SHELL-PETRO CANADA...How do they keep the same price? Do the have the same costs? I doubt.
Why our gas price is the same as in countries WITHOUT a drop of own oil? Why does Canada export oil to US if we have short "supply"? Why gas in US has lower price than in Canada? Is "demand" in US lower than in Canada? I doubt.

Three years ago I filled diesel at $0.80/L and now it is $1.30/L. Do you see 162,5% growth of diesel cars on the road compare to three years ago? Me too...
Farmers in Vancouver? Gimme a break. Why "supply" goes down? Is it possible to increase "supply"? Why not? Because it is make more sense for them to produce less and charge more. Less costs and more profit...

What about this idea
http://www.breakthechain.org/exclusives/exxon.html ?

Cheers,

Conspiracy? Haha, OK dude, back away from the diesel fumes! Costs would be very similar, yes. I buy potato chips from Wal-Mart, and from Superstore. They are the same price! Even from different brands! Is this evidence of a potato chip conspiracy? No.

The fuel prices are definitely not all the same across the city, I see a lot of variation in Calgary. The fuel in my town just outside Calgary is consistently cheaper than in Calgary too. If this was a conspiracy, why sell cheaper here?



Huh? Ours is way cheaper than most of the world. What country has no oil and pays less for fuel?



We are not short of supply of oil, that's why we can sell it to the US. Don't confuse crude oil with refined fuel.



Lower Taxes for one thing.



Three years ago oil fell to $30 a barrel. Here is a Wikipedia link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Price_of_petroleum (Not a great source, I know, but the article is cited.) We are now back up over $100 a barrell and still our fuel is very cheap compared to the worldwide average.



That was a local (to me) example. Here's a Vancouver one: Shipping and freight increases in the Spring, what do ships and trains run on? There are all kinds of seasonal industry that could have this effect. Anyway, the whole point was just to show the cost/supply relationship, and how quickly it changes, not to prove what happens in your area.

It is just to bad the price of fuel is not based on supply and demand.

1. Legal price fixing by opec
2. Speculative trade market

BTW, when the prices went down 30 cents over night, it was Esso or Shell doing it to be nie, then all other major companies joined in for the day. Mom and pop gas bars could not afford to do this.
And, it was in July or August i recall, as i was up at my cottage, and we were never there in april.

it's a BS story....

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A better idea, and one that would likely still affect the oil industry scam, would be for everyone to coordinate withdraw of all monies from fed insured bank accounts

3. Supply and Demand

The price of crude is affected by these factors, yes. They are not the only factors. If demand was not so high, would Opec be able to sell their oil?

http://www.eia.doe.gov/pub/oil_gas/petro...ent/import.html

Canada and Mexico alone export almost almost as much as Opec. If Opec wants to price-fix (among their member nations), they can, but they do have competition. The US doesn't have to buy from them, but appetites are too great for the black juice.

The price of actual refined fuel (which is much more of a locally-produced value-added product than most people think) is definitely affected by supply and demand.

Don't buy fuel? Why not just try to get people not to breathe for a day....

Gas price is set by supply and demand. You control demand, opec and the other oil producers control supply. The producers manage their production to maximize their revenue, a rational choice for them. You decide if you will pay their price, a rational choice for you. If enough of you decide you won't pay the price, the producers will adjust price again to maximize revenue at the new lower aggregate demand level.

What more do you want? You already pay the price you are willing to pay, you just want to whine about it...