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Re: Teardown Day One
[Re: Canyonero]
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08/12/11 06:56 AM
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Got my fingers crossed (again) that you don't have to strip this engine down much further, jinstv. Here's my hopes the cylinder walls/pistons look good.
John B.
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Re: Teardown Day One
[Re: JohnnyBfromPeoria]
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08/12/11 04:40 PM
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That?s crap, you should insert the damaged cam into the mechanics sphincter.
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1998 Montero trying to get a V8 Swapped
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Re: Teardown Day One
[Re: TOASTY]
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08/12/11 05:43 PM
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That?s crap, you should insert the damaged cam into the mechanics sphincter. I don't know about the rest of you but 2 men 1 camshaft is NOT a video I'll be clicking in the near or distant future. How does a leanin' lifter even happen in the first place? Did he just dump parts in there from a Yahtzee cup and tighten bolts? Here's hoping the rest comes together smoothly now!
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Re: Teardown Day One
[Re: wrenchwench]
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08/12/11 05:56 PM
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I had the same thing happen when I had my heads off to replace the valve stem seals back in 2005 - everything went together fine but after starting it up it was missing on one cylinder. I eventually found the exact same issue - my #4 cylinder intake rocker arm had somehow tilted off the pivot. I ended up replacing the intake cam and rocker arm and its been fine ever since.
95 Montero SR 3.8 MIVEC, Advance headers, 2 1/2" exhaust, Magnaflow muffler, OME shocks & rear springs, 2" body lift, 3" tank lift, 4.90s, TRE front locker, factory rear locker, Roger Brown Rock Sliderz, 315/75r16 (35") tires, Sport big brakes
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Re: Teardown Day One
[Re: ryany]
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08/12/11 06:34 PM
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I'm not entirely sure how the rocker came off, but it was actually jammed into the side of the cylinder head. I had to use a screwdriver to pry it loose, and you can see where the rocker had embedded itself in the head. Would explain some of the noise I heard, but not the engine stalling after a few seconds. Does the ECU kill the engine if it detects too much knock from the knock sensor?
1995 Montero SR 2" Body Lift 35x12.50x15 Cooper Discoverer STT Aisins
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Re: Teardown Day One
[Re: Canyonero]
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08/12/11 07:05 PM
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I don't think it does - usually the ECU will just retard the timing until the knock disappears.
Have you checked your catalytic converter? A clogged converter could explain the engine's running for only a short period of time.
95 Montero SR 3.8 MIVEC, Advance headers, 2 1/2" exhaust, Magnaflow muffler, OME shocks & rear springs, 2" body lift, 3" tank lift, 4.90s, TRE front locker, factory rear locker, Roger Brown Rock Sliderz, 315/75r16 (35") tires, Sport big brakes
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Re: Teardown Day One
[Re: ryany]
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08/12/11 08:44 PM
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I don't think it does - usually the ECU will just retard the timing until the knock disappears.
Have you checked your catalytic converter? A clogged converter could explain the engine's running for only a short period of time. And a valve not doing its job could explain a clogged converter... but I've never seen a cat THAT clogged that it would make the engine shut off <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/scared.gif" alt="" />
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Re: Teardown Day One
[Re: wrenchwench]
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08/12/11 09:29 PM
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I experienced it once on an old Dakota that I had. Suspected the cat was bad after I had a valve job done. While it was running I smacked the cat with a hammer to break up the junk, and it clogged so bad that it killed the engine. But it has a very distinct sound. Since it passed emissions not 15 minutes before it died on me, I'm inclined to think it is ok, but I haven't had it running long enough to make that determination.
Looking up some parts just a new cam is $264 shipped from mitsubishiparts.net. Yikes. I'd be better off getting a Clearwater head in that case. Unless someone knows of or has a driver side intake cam they are willing to part with.
1995 Montero SR 2" Body Lift 35x12.50x15 Cooper Discoverer STT Aisins
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Re: Teardown Day One
[Re: Canyonero]
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08/12/11 09:40 PM
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Looking up some parts just a new cam is $264 shipped from mitsubishiparts.net. Yikes. I'd be better off getting a Clearwater head in that case. Unless someone knows of or has a driver side intake cam they are willing to part with.
what about that one in my garage?
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Re: Teardown Day One
[Re: wrenchwench]
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08/12/11 10:09 PM
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Forgot about Lloyd's old engine. Can't hurt to pull the valve cover off and see what kind of shape it is in. I'm with the kids this weekend, but maybe I can check it out next week sometime once I get deeper into this engine.
1995 Montero SR 2" Body Lift 35x12.50x15 Cooper Discoverer STT Aisins
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