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Power Supply #1034730 09/20/11 11:44 PM
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I'd like to take a standard AC-DC computer power supply and convert it to be a DC-DC unit for use in the Raider without having to use a DC-AC inverter.

It seems that if the power supply converts 120 to 12, then 12 down to 5 and 3.3, then I should be able to just supply 12 and it would convert down.

Too simple?

Thanks


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1992 Chrysler LeBaron Convertible: 3.0/A
1994 GMC Safari: 4.3/A
Re: Power Supply [Re: WagonMaster] #1034731 09/21/11 12:15 AM
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In theory it could work. depends on the design of the circuitry. You'll need the schematic along with the component specifications to understand/figure out how it was designed. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" />

What are you making that requires 5 & 3 volts DC? A carputer?


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Re: Power Supply [Re: off-roader] #1034732 09/21/11 12:38 AM
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Yes, and DC-DC power supplies are under-powered and too expensive (much like a Lotus).


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1992 Chrysler LeBaron Convertible: 3.0/A
1994 GMC Safari: 4.3/A
Re: Power Supply [Re: WagonMaster] #1034733 09/21/11 12:51 AM
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It will work, I have used one in my Offroad trailer to power lights and 12V fans, works great. I used a 500 Watt for my applacation because it has more 12V outputs which I needed.



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Re: Power Supply [Re: WagonMaster] #1034734 09/21/11 12:55 AM
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How much power do the standard AC-DC power supplies in the computers require?

IIRC, there are many who have done similar things but on other forums. Guys, wasn't there a website like MP3.com or something similar that had a forum where you could discuss this in more detail with folks who focus on it? I recall they were doing things like using custom OS interfaces & modified touchscreens in custom cases/physical installs to make their car-puter easier to use.

Alternatively you may be able to get by with using a inexpensive 12vDC to 110vAC power converter. Yes I know it's pretty inefficient going from 12v DC to 110v AC back down to 5/3v DC but it may ultimately be simpler and easier to support versus using a modified power supply that if it goes bad isn't necessarily as simple to fix/replace.

I went through a similar exercise with my netbook. I spend a few days looking for a 12vDC to 19.5vDC converter with sufficient current ratings to support my netbook. Ended up being more expensive to buy than a $50 12vDC to 110vAC power converter that fits nicely under my passenger seat and can easily be replaced should it fail (one already has after ~ a year of use).

I don't mean to discourage you but do want to offer other ways to make it happen in case the modified power supply idea falls through.

Either way, I look forward to seeing the results.

HTH. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" />

Re: Power Supply [Re: 87monty] #1034735 09/21/11 01:08 AM
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It will work, I have used one in my Offroad trailer to power lights and 12V fans, works great. I used a 500 Watt for my applacation because it has more 12V outputs which I needed.


Would you be a dear and do a write-up? <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" />

Thanks


HUMMER .25: No need to compensate.

1989 Dodge Raider: 3.0/5
1992 Chrysler LeBaron Convertible: 3.0/A
1994 GMC Safari: 4.3/A
Re: Power Supply [Re: off-roader] #1034736 09/21/11 01:10 AM
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How much power do the standard AC-DC power supplies in the computers require?

IIRC, there are many who have done similar things but on other forums. Guys, wasn't there a website like MP3.com or something similar that had a forum where you could discuss this in more detail with folks who focus on it? I recall they were doing things like using custom OS interfaces & modified touchscreens in custom cases/physical installs to make their car-puter easier to use.

Alternatively you may be able to get by with using a inexpensive 12vDC to 110vAC power converter. Yes I know it's pretty inefficient going from 12v DC to 110v AC back down to 5/3v DC but it may ultimately be simpler and easier to support versus using a modified power supply that if it goes bad isn't necessarily as simple to fix/replace.

I went through a similar exercise with my netbook. I spend a few days looking for a 12vDC to 19.5vDC converter with sufficient current ratings to support my netbook. Ended up being more expensive to buy than a $50 12vDC to 110vAC power converter that fits nicely under my passenger seat and can easily be replaced should it fail (one already has after ~ a year of use).

I don't mean to discourage you but do want to offer other ways to make it happen in case the modified power supply idea falls through.

Either way, I look forward to seeing the results.

HTH. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" />


I've checked the MP3car sight, and they seem to be pushing the DC-DC units (which they sell). I may end up with an inverter, but would like to avoid that extra step if I can.


HUMMER .25: No need to compensate.

1989 Dodge Raider: 3.0/5
1992 Chrysler LeBaron Convertible: 3.0/A
1994 GMC Safari: 4.3/A
Re: Power Supply [Re: WagonMaster] #1034737 09/21/11 01:57 AM
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Would you be a dear and do a write-up? <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" />

Thanks


Dear? WTH is that?


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Re: Power Supply [Re: Grasscat] #1034738 09/21/11 02:19 AM
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Would you be a dear and do a write-up? <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" />

Thanks


Dear? WTH is that?


A dear is something a REAL Grasscat would hunt down and eat. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/butwiggle.gif" alt="" />


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1989 Dodge Raider: 3.0/5
1992 Chrysler LeBaron Convertible: 3.0/A
1994 GMC Safari: 4.3/A
Re: Power Supply [Re: WagonMaster] #1034739 09/21/11 04:46 AM
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