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Re: Occupiers or Partiers? [Re: kewlynx] #1035964 11/08/11 08:55 AM
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Re: Occupiers or Partiers? [Re: LandRaider] #1035965 11/10/11 05:45 AM
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Re: Occupiers or Partiers? [Re: kewlynx] #1035966 11/12/11 04:04 AM
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It is interesting that the Tea Partiers are pushing for freedom from big government. On the other hand, the Occupy Wall Street crowd is pushing for bigger government to control the excess of Wall Street.

And yet, the Wall Street money has been directed to the party that supports the Occupy Wall Street crowd.

Appears to be a case of biting the hand that feeds you.....

Power corrupts. Absolute power power corrupts absolutely.

The left and right are polarized. Neither are concerned with the phrase "We the people...."

There is enough blame to be shared by the left and right. IMHO, the Tea Party is closer the the middle and representative of the independent voter. Violence is a big turn-off.


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Re: Occupiers or Partiers? [Re: 4x4Wire] #1035967 11/12/11 04:18 AM
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And yet, the Wall Street money has been directed to the party that supports the Occupy Wall Street crowd.

Appears to be a case of biting the hand that feeds you.....



please clarify and explain more of how wall street is paying for it.


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Re: Occupiers or Partiers? [Re: Tag] #1035968 11/12/11 04:20 AM
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The Tea party was guided by the rich for the rich against its own best interests. It was also severly financialy supported by the uberrich.

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Re: Occupiers or Partiers? [Re: Tag] #1035969 11/12/11 04:35 AM
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Check the donation records submitted by the Democrat and Republican parties. The Democrat party has been lopsided recipient of Wall Street donations.

That is the same group the Occupiers at protesting....


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Re: Occupiers or Partiers? [Re: Tag] #1035970 11/12/11 04:46 AM
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And, moveon.org is supported by the pauper George Soros?

I have been looking. I can't find records for the "urberrich" supporting Tea Party candidates. Perhaps you have something to the contrary?

As it stands, the available financial records indicate that the Occupiers are being supported by moveon.org, labor unions, and the Democrat Party which is a big recipient of Wall Street donations.

The Tea Party does receive some funds from the Republican fund raising system. Still looking for George Soros, Bill Gates, Warren Buffet, and the Hollywood "urberrich" to appear in their donor records....


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Re: Occupiers or Partiers? [Re: 4x4Wire] #1035971 11/12/11 06:59 AM
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A.F.P provides many of the funds. Look to see who started AFP.

Also where do the busses and the stages and the jumbotrons come from?

The unions are involved with the ows that is for certain and Not Hidden. They would benefit from a stronger middle class.

Most of the local street level stuff has been donated by people that can not participate or has been brought by the occupiers so I have heard. I have not been to one so I dont know first hand.

Also the Tea Party needs a bit of a history lesson or to find a new name. The original Tea Party was about unfair taxes but not about too much it was about too little on the East India Company.


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Re: Occupiers or Partiers? [Re: Tag] #1035972 11/12/11 07:38 AM
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Also the Tea Party needs a bit of a history lesson or to find a new name. The original Tea Party was about unfair taxes but not about too much is was about too little on the East India Company.


TEA -- Taxed Enough Already

They did form to fight new and increasing taxes. Their underlying philosophy was and remains, less government intervention and let people create wealth.

Read history. The feudal system in England kept people as slaves to a few landowners beholder to a royalty that did nothing to better life for the common person.

In theory the unions would benefit from a strong midde class. Welcome to reality. The unions along with the government are destroying the middle class. The unions depend on employers paying everyone a wage. In practice it is less work for more wage.

The government depends on keeping people subjected to dependence on the handout. In practice, no work for pay.

Those getting rich are the politicians, elected by (should say selected by) those that will keep them in power.

Sorry, I don't buy into the benovalence of unions. At one time they had a purpose. That time is past.

Nor do I buy into big business. T. Roosevelt did good as the "trust buster". Cousin FDR messed that up with the introduction of social security. Each succeding congress (and President) has managed to morph that simple supplemental income safety net into a social welfare monster with the populace be holding to the government.

In that scenario, there is no middle class.

IMHO, the Tea Party believes in a middle class. The Occupiers only want their share given to them with nothing offered in return.

So, who pays the bill? Over 50% of the population pays no taxes.


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Re: Occupiers or Partiers? [Re: 4x4Wire] #1035973 11/13/11 06:27 AM
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Nicely said

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