I want to be in the Hagenbach family, but I don't want to be Jay. His speed must have been so fast they wouldn't put it up on the board so it wouldn't fry Hillary or Hunter's little egos. Or so slow. He does have the uncool name in the familiy, after all...

And Jeez, It is kind of funny to see the Prius Poop Pile on that list. And I can hear Enzo turning over about 12k rpms in his grave, including that lovely ripping canvas sound of the v12, over a Ferrari name the Tour de France... <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/barf.gif" alt="" /> After such gems of a name as Testa Rossa, Superamerica, Dino, 275GTB4 NART, some Fiat drone put in charge at Ferrari because he can't make it with the econobox side who rides his bike to work comes up with Tour de France??? This is a company with 'nads, whose owner once told a complaining buyer that since he didn't like his 250, the company was taking it back and giving him back his money, as he was not good enough for a Ferrari, and made it stick.

There are no really good car crazies making cars anymore, it seems. So sad...

Before you start, I know Carrol Shelby is still above dirt and putting his name on cars. Doesn't count. He's just a very good snake oil salesman, and the pun is intentional. He had to have some damn good engineers around him to build anything that would run, and the magic in Cobras is due to them, not the smooth talking Texas con man. He just pushed the product, by whatever means necessary.