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Carbed to fuel injection setup -- Turbo swap #1037385 11/05/11 11:51 PM
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Jimbotsi Offline OP
Getting the Wheeling Fever
Been a long time coming for me to finish up my Monty, took a three year hiatus to finish school... it's been sittin for nearly 5 years now.

Anyway, I have just about everything figured out but the fuel supply from the tank. I'm using a Bosch replacement fuel pump for a Starion with a 1/2" inlet, the pickup from the tank is only 3/8" or so. What has everyone done to make this connection? I did a search and read the post from last year about cavitation issues etc. but there was no definitive outcome. Was thinking about welding/ brazing a new 1/2" pickup tube but don't want to put out the effort if it's not worth the trouble.


87 Monty SWB 208k currently immobile: SOME RUST
89 Quest 61k slightly original
DD---> Integra Rust bucket (gone but not forgotten)
02 BMW M5
Re: Carbed to fuel injection setup -- Turbo swap [Re: Jimbotsi] #1037386 11/06/11 01:18 AM
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The gent who converted my MM used an external pump. I can get some photos if that'd be helpful?

Re: Carbed to fuel injection setup -- Turbo swap [Re: Jimbotsi] #1037387 11/06/11 01:20 AM
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It will be fine with the 3/8". You aren't running a track car, and that will supply a hot street ride just fine.


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Re: Carbed to fuel injection setup -- Turbo swap [Re: rxinhed] #1037388 11/06/11 02:14 AM
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The gent who converted my MM used an external pump. I can get some photos if that'd be helpful?
I'd appreciate that Russell. I'll be needing to upgrade with the 3.5 swap.

Re: Carbed to fuel injection setup -- Turbo swap [Re: Jimbotsi] #1037389 11/06/11 02:35 AM
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The Bosch / Starion pump that I got to replace my OEM pump works OK... But is really loud.

Bosch decided to use a turbine instead of the rotor type that came from the factory. For the Bosch to work, its spins a lot faster. It's a really annoying whine.

As soon as a get my new shop closed in that pump gets pulled.

Kevin


87 Turbo Intercooled Raider, roller cam, torsen rear diff, LSD front diff, lockup auto with modified converter, V6 brakes, low transfer case gears...
Re: Carbed to fuel injection setup -- Turbo swap [Re: Kevin C] #1037390 11/06/11 05:54 PM
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Jimbotsi Offline OP
Getting the Wheeling Fever
That's not really what I wanted to hear about the Bosch 69400 pump but if it works that's what I'm going to use -- just gonna have to put up with the noise. So I guess I'll just go with one of those 1/2" to 3/8" splicer reducer barb fittings like one of these and call it a day. fast fittings


87 Monty SWB 208k currently immobile: SOME RUST
89 Quest 61k slightly original
DD---> Integra Rust bucket (gone but not forgotten)
02 BMW M5
Re: Carbed to fuel injection setup -- Turbo swap [Re: Jimbotsi] #1037391 11/06/11 08:40 PM
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The other thing was the turbine does not seem to prime as well as the mechanical pump. After swapping mine it would not self prime. I had to fill the pump as best I could and then run it.

Not fun. I cant see that it would be a good pump to have if you run out of gas. The design might be better if its run submerged.

Kevin

Last edited by Kevin C; 11/07/11 02:50 AM.

87 Turbo Intercooled Raider, roller cam, torsen rear diff, LSD front diff, lockup auto with modified converter, V6 brakes, low transfer case gears...
Re: Carbed to fuel injection setup -- Turbo swap [Re: Kevin C] #1037392 11/07/11 01:29 AM
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Too much clearance in a turbine pump to prime. The impeller is very bad at moving air to create a vacuum to lift the fuel to the pump, and very good at moving the fuel once it gets to the impeller. A vane or geroter pump is not great at moving air, but better than a turbine, so they prime better. I face the same problem with water pumps. A diaphragm pump primes very well, but is not efficient in moving water. They are used to move dirty water and much and sloppy mud. A centrifugal pump is tougher to prime, but moves water very well when primed up, but is stopped by trash way too easy, and requires a strainer on the suction end.

I like Master (Airtex) fuel pumps. I've used the e8000 and the e2315. I think either would do the job for you. They are vane pumps, and under $100.


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Re: Carbed to fuel injection setup -- Turbo swap [Re: fasteddy] #1037393 11/07/11 02:51 AM
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fasteddy, are those numbers you can take into any parts store?


89 SWB, V-6 5SPD, OME Shocks, 16.5X37's, 2"BL, SR axle, Gen2 brakes, Lincoln w/Superwinch
Re: Carbed to fuel injection setup -- Turbo swap [Re: Mudraider] #1037394 11/07/11 03:08 AM
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I have a Master E8000.

John B.

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