has to be a 4 door... lots of room for roadies with my minions. ive been looking primarily at the early 2000's cadillacs (primarily sts), audi a6, 5 series and above beemers and a few mercedes and vw's. havnt been looking much at the asian market, sure ill get what im looking for but i dont like what im looking at. any of the ones that im currently looking at, they havnt radically changed the design every other year so they basically look the same. i know any of them will have their issues (lexus included), but i want all the bells and whistles in a automobile that looks good and not outdated. hence me looking at the gen3... i dont know much about them, but from what i do know it would seem that it would fit the bill. milage wise, im willing to sacrifice some fuel economy for luxury. btw, whats the mpg on a gen3 at hwy speed? what about at 80mph? mid/high 20's would be sweet, but im not going to cram myself and minions into a metro to save couple bucks on a 1000 mile roadie. always had a soft spot for the gen3... its big and has all the ding toots. just a little concerned about potential issues the model may have.