Hey Ted, (if you're looking), is that bucket on your brother's ATV a homebuilt or something from HF? Thanks.

I think the IDF beat you to it

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:D9R_rpg-armor06a.jpg

On the flip side the AT4 will defeat everything up to a current generation main battle tank. You might go for a track shot but you have to worry about the big gun swing on your position <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/mrt.gif" alt="" />

I don't want just the weight. I want the walking legs plus road wheels. Tracks just don't cut it for a war machine, too short a life, too prone to break/jump off...

Armies have historically been composed of the infantry, the artillery, and the cavalry. The infantry, the poor, bloody infantry, is the one who takes the ground and holds it. The redleg arty stands way back and throws bombs. The air force is just fancy artillery with delusions of grandeur, pilot corps at least. The cavalry used to be on horses, and found weak points and made raids and breakthrus, gathering intelligence and destroying internal lines of supply and communication, attacking HQ's. Machine guns did away with the horses. The original light tanks were supposed to replace the horses, but that didn't work well. Too slow, not agile, fuel hogs. Then the Army came up with aircav, but manpads are going to kill those off, except for supply well behind the MLR, assuming you aren't in LIC and have no main line of resistance. A walking machine could stay under ground cover.

And Massey Ferguson made the best tractor...

Well Fast, it might make a nice video game <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" /> To a Infantry guy with a AT4 it's nothing more than a mobile coffin.

Now back on topic, My first expereince with a Bush Hog was in the 70's in Florida. We were having our property cleared. The guy that sold us the property "Old Man Peterson" was driving the Hog. The land was scrub oak, saw palmetto and sand pine mix. It's amazing the what one of those things can mow down.

I hear Old Man Peterson screaming. He jumps off the tractor and runs. The tractor and hog just keep on trucking for 10 yards or so. He had ran over a goher hole that had been converted into a southern yellow jacket hive. He must have been stung 30 plus times. We sprayed the hole with wasp spray that shoots 25 feet ( after everything had calmed down ). The next day the hole was surrounding by dead wasps,about two garden wheel barrels worth. We dug up the nest it was the size of a large cooler.

The hog does a nice job shaving down the saw palmetto but removing the stumps is a exercise in patience. Thos things do not give up easy. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/patriot.gif" alt="" />

I saw a guy step on a ground hornet nest in a peach orchard one hot summer afternoon.

First came the scream; we knew this wasn't a joke.

That guy took off across the orchard at a speed that would make Usain Bolt envious AND took his pants off OVER HIS SHOES at the same time. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/scared.gif" alt="" />

Magic to watch; painful to live through.

About 20 got him.

I was riding a mountain bike on a single track once. The guy ahead of me dropped his tire into a yellowjacket nest. He didn't get stung. I only got stung a few times. The guy behind me got stung 20 or more times.

We have a weekend neighbor that uses a tow behind, I can not say I have looked at it up close. I can ask him about it next time he is up.
I have an old L1 Gravely with most all the attachments, I sure do not like trimming around the cars with the sickle bar any more, damn that goes through the sidewalls The 30" rotary is impressive, I have only used it to edge with. i no longer tackle much over 1¢ with it anymore. I generally use my 1973 Kubota L225 with the 5' hog, I generally chainsaw the larger stuff but trim the stumps down.
I really prefer to run a hog on the Kubota rather than an 8N, It just drives better and I have more gear selection so I can control the feed to the mower better, especially when doing the larger drive overs or chewing stumps.

agree... having a live PTO drive independent of ground speed versus 8N ground speed PTO is a great asset.. As you probably know, ground speed PTOs and heavy bush hogs can be deadly if no over-run clutch is added to the PTO drive...

In my home town, a number of times I've seen news stories of someone getting killed bush hogging up close to ditches/steep slopes.. The inertia of the rotating bush hog is huge and can over power the brakes on a ground speed drive.. the killer accidents are when they can stop the tractor rollover in a ditch or slope.....

I even put a over-run clutch on my live PTO as the very heavy bush hog (rotating assembly) would really yank the drive train around (backlashing) when you closed the throttle a fair amount.

for anybody not familar with PTO overrun clutch...
http://www.ehow.com/video_4941613_pto-clutch-tractor-how-works.html

My Ford 841 is one of the last of the NON live PTO tractors... the 851 5 speed version, and 861 hydramatic version of my tractor both have live PTOs.


I MOST CERTAINLY run an over run clutch on it. It'd be a death trap without it.

>>>*My brother Sonny built that, since he has two steel legs he hates getting off the machine so everything is designed to do from the seat.

Half of the equipment we have around here he built, just an old farm taught engineer.

We just bought a new smaller Kubota to replace the ATV, he needed more power. First thing he did was cut levers off of it and modify it....I am usually on the big Massey Ferguson...*EB