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Re: 3.15 T-case gears or Possible group buy [Re: Angelo] #1040281 01/16/12 06:01 PM
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Call advanced adapters and ask what they are charging for a set. Swapping in a different T-case like a Rubicon T-case could be done at your local jeep shop i'm sure it's not a huge deal.


1999 Montero SAS'd on Kings and stuff

1998 Montero trying to get a V8 Swapped
Re: 3.15 T-case gears or Possible group buy [Re: TOASTY] #1040282 01/17/12 06:46 AM
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If we're talking group buy I'm in for a set. (depending on price) I could even go for a set of 2.85s also.


'96 SR, 35's, body lift, arb front bumper, Custom rear rock bumper, rock sliders.
'89 Raider V6 w/ SR rear axle & locker
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Re: 3.15 T-case gears or Possible group buy [Re: Angelo] #1040283 01/17/12 08:39 AM
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haztoys Offline
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Ps, is it possible to have a set that hasn't been installed copied here in the US?


I have breakfast once a week with a gentleman that owns and runs a gear cutting shop for the last forty years ... Let me know ...Very cool guy we've done some real wild gear stuff over the last 15 years ...

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Re: 3.15 T-case gears or Possible group buy [Re: Angelo] #1040284 01/17/12 09:31 AM
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I'm def not paying $2500 for a set


Angelo, they were A$1200 not US$2500 unless there is some serious gouging going on by your importers.


97 Exceed, 3.5l SOHC auto, 4.90 gears, ARB front locker,rear Harrop E-Locker, Magnum winch, dual transfer cases also 2008 NS swb Pajero, front bar & winch
Re: 3.15 T-case gears or Possible group buy [Re: Ian Sharpe] #1040285 01/17/12 02:20 PM
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Haha whew! That's a relief. Sounds much more reasonable. I've emailed mark & hardman Bros, no response yet.

I'm up for options. Toasty, what do you know about the rubicon t cases?

, you would probably need a set of those gears to copy? How come we haven't explored cutting gears here in the US?

Ian, you were one of the first to get a set? Didn't Mark test fit the first set in yours? Obviously you know more on what's going on over there more than any of us. Maybe a group buy is around the corner. You have any more advice or info that I don't have access to?


99JAOS2"& OME 2"body 4.90s ARB HS9500i Skids&Ladder 16"315BFG JAOSRemote& Rack 3Row Rad IPF back& Searchlite HID Overhead Console/CB switchPanel FrARB RrLocker TJMSnorkel 160AAlt Sliders 2nd Tranny Cooler QuickAirII& Tank Rear frame/tank Lift
Re: 3.15 T-case gears or Possible group buy [Re: Angelo] #1040286 01/17/12 04:06 PM
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I'd be in for a group buy as well if we go that route.


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Re: 3.15 T-case gears or Possible group buy [Re: Angelo] #1040287 01/17/12 04:36 PM
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Gears cost $1,395.00 AU (1453.45 US), i think my gears cost around 200 to ship. Marks4wd refers it's US customers to Advanced Adapters these days. Now i could be wrong but i remember Advanced adapters price being in the 2k range. Now i'm sure if Ian is willing to help with a group buy that would make a big difference on the price.

These gears are awesome and worth every penny, installation is pretty straight forward. Once you have them you wouldn't ever go without.


As for the Rubicon T-case, they fit pretty nice in a Montero. You will need the Jeep Cherokee AW4 tailhousing, modified pulse gear, speedo decoder, cable shifter and custom driveshafts but on the plus side no more slip yokes.


1999 Montero SAS'd on Kings and stuff

1998 Montero trying to get a V8 Swapped
Re: 3.15 T-case gears or Possible group buy [Re: Canyonero] #1040288 01/18/12 10:31 AM
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Angelo,

Yes I think I was the first to actually have a set of the 3.15 fitted. These gears were made to fit a 2nd hand transfer case that Mitsabissan (Frank Zanetti) sourced in Melbourne, Aus. If I recall correctly a couple of us over here chipped in for the cost of the transfer case. At that time Frank didnt have a 3.5l Paj so he was doing us a huge favour by organising the manufacture of these gears. To date there is no-one else who has made or is willing to make these gears.

The gears were shipped to me & I had them installed by a 4wd shop in Canberra. Apart from a minor install problem relating to a shim (apparantly Mitsu used different thickness shims from time to time) the gears have performed faultlessly.

There are some guys over here trying to get a group buy together for a set to fit the Tritons here (the Triton is a 4wd utility vehicle with Gen 2.5 running gear) & thats where I heard that they had contacted Hardmans & were told that no stock was available & he would only fabricate with a minumun order.

I did send Mark Hardmann an email but no reply yet, however they might still be on Xmas vacation. I will call them tomorrow & get back to you.

Just out of interest there is a mob here in Australia who are acting as agents for Marlin Crawlers in the US (I'm sure you have heard of marlin) & they posted that they were willing to try to get marlin to make up a crawler to suit the Tritons. All Marlin would require were some sample parts

here is an extract from the post

"Why am I telling you Triton boys this?

It's not to rub it in....seriously.....well, maybe just a little....

but to be frank with you all there is no reason i dont think why this part cannot be made to fit a Triton.

all you (im reffering to you triton owners here that want to crawl) have to do/organise is to get the following parts together to send to Marlin in the USA to make a unit for the triton - a rear transmission adaptor/bellhousing and transmission out put shaft, the front transfercase adaptor and transfercase input shaft.

with these parts in hand Marlin can then fabricate front and rear adaptors for the crawl box aswell as include the correct couplers for the shafts.

Matty from Monster rides is going to be the australian agent for these so if you triton boys think that this would be worth putting your collective mitsubishi asses together and resources and getting the parts needed over to matty to forward onto Marlin, then you triton could be crawling too.

so how bout it boys?

who here is "seriously" interested in being able to get their mitsubishi crawling?

Oh, i should mention also that my final crawl ratio is around 125:1 as a reference. and with this unit fitted you have the choice of the following gear sets -

1) your factory transfercase by itself
2) the crawl boxes (4.7) by itself
3) compound low with both boxes in low range.

much more usable than just one set of low range gears.

let me know what you guys think bout this? actually, let matty know, send him an email at matty@monsterrides.com.au and tell him your interested in developing a crawl box for the triton.....post your interest here to so we can see a running tally.

cheers guys, hope thats some hope for you all."

The cost would be more that the 3.15 but would give you much more options with more ratios. I must admit that sometimes the 3.15 are too low & sometimes not low enough, so it would be great to have the standard ratio, plus to option to go lower again, but I guess it depends upon how much $$ you want to throw at our vehicles!

cheers & I'll get back once I contact Hardmans.


97 Exceed, 3.5l SOHC auto, 4.90 gears, ARB front locker,rear Harrop E-Locker, Magnum winch, dual transfer cases also 2008 NS swb Pajero, front bar & winch
Re: 3.15 T-case gears or Possible group buy [Re: Ian Sharpe] #1040289 01/18/12 11:13 AM
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Ian Sharpe Offline
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BTW here are all the possible ratios combinations

http://site.valianpark.com/Downloads/NLdiffs.xls

Last edited by Ian Sharpe; 01/18/12 11:22 AM.

97 Exceed, 3.5l SOHC auto, 4.90 gears, ARB front locker,rear Harrop E-Locker, Magnum winch, dual transfer cases also 2008 NS swb Pajero, front bar & winch
Re: 3.15 T-case gears or Possible group buy [Re: Ian Sharpe] #1040290 01/18/12 05:16 PM
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I'll Call Marlin today and arrange some things for them. Ian you are the man, seriously.


1999 Montero SAS'd on Kings and stuff

1998 Montero trying to get a V8 Swapped
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