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Re: Fuel Injection on my 2.6 Gen1 Complete....and AWESOME
[Re: OldColt]
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04/16/12 02:40 PM
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Joined: Oct 2011
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Just thought I'd update. I'm getting everything together for a "Build Thread" since I had many people ask. I'm nearing the end of tank #3 now and tank #2 I actually had worse mileage than tank #1. Only got about 21 mpg. While I was able to lean several areas of my fuel map, I had other areas that needed riching up. It ran SUPER over that period with really smooth, good power.
The hesitation I kept having and thought was temp related gave me fits so I went through everything (ECU, wiring, etc) and finally just wired in an 88-89 Starion dizzy, vacumn advance, and ignitor and it fixed the issue immediately. I think the RPM signal was a little weak for Megasquirt because the ignition was fine when carbed. I would get random RPM losses when the blips occurred throwing MS into fits for 5-10 seconds. My MS was pre-wired with an upgraded RPM capture circuit to avoid overheating the standard one and apparently it was just a little weak with the stock dizzy. However, changing the ignition setup has richened my maps out and now a retune is in order. I've gotten good mileage out of this tank even in the over-rich state so I'm still slightly hopeful that 25 mpg MIGHT be achievable from N/A with TBI.
The turbo longblock goes in within the month so only a little time to keep testing <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
At this point I have to say that I don't think adding fuel injection has done much at all for horspower improvement, but the torque gains have been substantial. It'll pull pretty much any hill in 5th now that before required AT LEAST 1 downshift if not 2. Acceleration at interstate speeds (55-70) is vastly improved. I don't drive much on big roads but I've played some just to see and she'll easily accelerate from 55-80 in 5th gear with light throttle input. On the carb accelerating or even pulling grades took hammer down.
Last edited by jonboyb; 04/16/12 02:55 PM.
1989 Nevada Sand Raider 2.6 5-speed Turbo FI with Megasquirt
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Re: Fuel Injection on my 2.6 Gen1 Complete....and AWESOME
[Re: jonboyb]
#1044471
04/17/12 06:41 AM
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Joined: Jan 2012
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just trying to collect parts for my conversion, i was wondering what megasquirt version you where running?
1989 Mighty Max 4WD 2.6 Turbo,Auto EFI...megasquirt! 4.62 Rear LSD! 1989 Mighty Max 2WD 2.6 5 speed slammed 1993 Eagle Talon TSI
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Re: Fuel Injection on my 2.6 Gen1 Complete....and AWESOME
[Re: boostin]
#1044472
04/18/12 01:56 PM
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Joined: Oct 2011
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MS-II V3.0 but it serious overkill for N/A. I had it already from a turbo project.
1989 Nevada Sand Raider 2.6 5-speed Turbo FI with Megasquirt
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Re: Fuel Injection on my 2.6 Gen1 Complete....and AWESOME
[Re: jonboyb]
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04/20/12 12:55 AM
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Joined: Jan 2012
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yeah i figured it was a pretty basic set up so i was thinking of just going with the basic one http://www.diyautotune.com/catalog/megas...-unit-p-34.htmlShould be more then enough to get me started... this is my first megasquirt project so I am pretty excited but there seems to be a overwhelming amount of info to absorb, so i might be asking u lots of questions.
1989 Mighty Max 4WD 2.6 Turbo,Auto EFI...megasquirt! 4.62 Rear LSD! 1989 Mighty Max 2WD 2.6 5 speed slammed 1993 Eagle Talon TSI
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Re: Fuel Injection on my 2.6 Gen1 Complete....and AWESOME
[Re: boostin]
#1044474
04/20/12 04:01 PM
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Joined: Oct 2011
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Yep....that's plenty of ECU for this project.
Don't let MS overwhelm you......it being open source and DIY there's some pretty heavy programming and algorithms involved but in the end you don't need to know anything about them. The gurus just give full explanation of how everything works. Once it's wired an initial program is a breeze. Feel free to contact me when needed.
1989 Nevada Sand Raider 2.6 5-speed Turbo FI with Megasquirt
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Re: Fuel Injection on my 2.6 Gen1 Complete....and AWESOME
[Re: jonboyb]
#1044475
07/22/12 05:37 PM
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Joined: Jul 2012
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Need a Spot
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I went ms2 v3 on my 88 raider i want to know how you went with the stock 2.6 distributor cause i get no spark cause the ignition module and the pickup coil are integrated to one thing how will i wire this up and what mods will i need to do to the ms inside
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Re: Fuel Injection on my 2.6 Gen1 Complete....and AWESOME
[Re: monterito88]
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07/22/12 06:13 PM
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Joined: May 2000
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I went ms2 v3 on my 88 raider i want to know how you went with the stock 2.6 distributor cause i get no spark cause the ignition module and the pickup coil are integrated to one thing how will i wire this up and what mods will i need to do to the ms inside 2.6 Starion dist is pickup coil only.
87 Turbo Intercooled Raider, roller cam, torsen rear diff, LSD front diff, lockup auto with modified converter, V6 brakes, low transfer case gears...
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Re: Fuel Injection on my 2.6 Gen1 Complete....and AWESOME
[Re: monterito88]
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07/22/12 06:20 PM
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Joined: Sep 2006
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Roll Me Over
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A 2.4 dizzy from an injected truck give both crank and cam sensors and is fixed pickups allowing the MS to set all the timing. The dizzy does need a 6mm spacer to mount in a 2.6.
Cheers, Charlie If It ain't broke, Modify it! 87 Montero turbo Converted back in Spring1989 95 Montero SR 3.8 DOHC Only one? 93 Pajero 3 door 6G75 Mivec with paddle shifted 5 speed Then a Gen2 SR with full coil independent suspension.
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Re: Fuel Injection on my 2.6 Gen1 Complete....and AWESOME
[Re: monterito88]
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07/24/12 01:58 AM
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Joined: Feb 2001
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Body Damage is Cool
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I went ms2 v3 on my 88 raider i want to know how you went with the stock 2.6 distributor cause i get no spark cause the ignition module and the pickup coil are integrated to one thing how will i wire this up and what mods will i need to do to the ms inside Glad to see another Boricua around these corners. This is an awesome community. Welcome!!! I am from San German. Javy
88 red Montero with the Dakar Special Edition decals, 438,000 miles (As of 7/23/2012) some occational blue puffing but still strong and counting!!! I am going ppsshhh (turbo), Stay tuned =) ...
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Re: Fuel Injection on my 2.6 Gen1 Complete....and AWESOME
[Re: JAVYPRO]
#1044479
02/20/13 07:52 PM
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Joined: Jul 2012
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Need a Spot
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I went ms2 v3 on my 88 raider i want to know how you went with the stock 2.6 distributor cause i get no spark cause the ignition module and the pickup coil are integrated to one thing how will i wire this up and what mods will i need to do to the ms inside Glad to see another Boricua around these corners. This is an awesome community. Welcome!!! I am from San German. Javy Im from Arecibo
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