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 Re: 4Cyl turbo Vs V6 3.0?
[Re: 87monty]
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06/04/12 01:53 AM
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Can I use any of the timing parts from this block? If not what is required to put my 4g63 head on I have? I have been doing alot of research and found some part numbers but not sure if the ones I have on this motor are the same. One last thing is the factory pistons can I use these for my turbo setup or do I need to get some new ones? Here is a picture on the head sitting on the 2.4 lower end I picked up. ![[Linked Image]](http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h163/hyboosa/IMG_0489.jpg)
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Re: 4Cyl turbo Vs V6 3.0?
[Re: 87monty]
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06/04/12 03:02 AM
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I think the 2.4 block is taller than the 2.0, so the timing belt will need to be longer by wice th edifference in height. Look up the compression height on both motors and that will give you the difference.
Have you been to projectzerog.com yet?
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Re: 4Cyl turbo Vs V6 3.0?
[Re: fasteddy]
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06/04/12 03:35 AM
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I think the 2.4 block is taller than the 2.0, so the timing belt will need to be longer by wice th edifference in height. Look up the compression height on both motors and that will give you the difference.
Have you been to projectzerog.com yet? I did find the spot on projectzero (I'v been on there almost evey day sense I started this project by the way <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/zombie.gif" alt="" />) where they showed a parts list maybe the longer belt is shown as well ill look and see. One other thing I did see on my block has the pads for the oil squiters they just need to be machined in. So I think I should have them put in, I have read some people dont run them..What do you think?
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Re: 4Cyl turbo Vs V6 3.0?
[Re: 87monty]
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06/04/12 03:57 AM
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I like anything that keeps the pistons cooler in a turbo motor. If you run forged pistons, you may not need them. If you run hypereutectic or cast pistons, I think you really want them.
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Re: 4Cyl turbo Vs V6 3.0?
[Re: fasteddy]
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06/04/12 04:03 AM
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Your right I think they are there for a reason.
Ill find out what it will cost to have it done.
And while im at it ill have it honed and hot tanked,
Should I change the pistons out for turbo ones?
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Re: 4Cyl turbo Vs V6 3.0?
[Re: 87monty]
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06/04/12 03:17 PM
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Your right I think they are there for a reason.
Ill find out what it will cost to have it done.
And while im at it ill have it honed and hot tanked,
Should I change the pistons out for turbo ones? If I did
use them I am a little worried about having to much compression. Found this on a DSM forum. If your not planning on making over 450hp, stock rods and pistons will be just fine. So many people build there motors and dont even come close to 450hp.
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Re: 4Cyl turbo Vs V6 3.0?
[Re: 87monty]
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06/06/12 01:35 AM
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I have two questions at the moment, #1 keep the balance shafts or not. #2 what oil squirter's should I look for. The lower end of this 4G63 2.0 I picked up does not have them and the guy said it was a turbo block but after pulling the pan no luck there <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />
What about starion ones? Or do I need to stick with the 4g6X
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Re: 4Cyl turbo Vs V6 3.0?
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06/06/12 04:58 AM
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Re: 4Cyl turbo Vs V6 3.0?
[Re: fasteddy]
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06/07/12 02:07 AM
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I have read that these shafts being belt driven can break and sending the small belt into the timing belt which will cause it to derail when it gets wraped up and will throw off timing, and then the worst thing ever happens sense is a non clearance head. So im scared now! I took them out on my starion and have some vibration around 3 grand but what if I have the whole thing balanced would that help? I just want to do the right thing and have a solid out come of the project.
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Re: 4Cyl turbo Vs V6 3.0?
[Re: 87monty]
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06/07/12 04:34 AM
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Balancing might help, but you cannot eliminate the vibration of an I4 motor. Has to do with the harmonics of the rotating mass. V-motors offset each side so don't need them. Question on that note, is that why a boxter motor is built the way it is, to counter effect the vibrations?
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