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Re: 4Cyl turbo Vs V6 3.0? [Re: geocrasher] #1047239 08/18/13 10:57 PM
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87monty Offline OP
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So after some advice and research the Montero 5 speed will explode behind my 4g64....Crap
So I did find a good alternative
Might go with a Toyota 5 speed trans from a 99 4runner
Driver side drop and very strong.
here is the guy with the adapters, super cool guy and will
make what ever you want.
http://www.billsautofab.com/default.asp


Also opens up a world of dual transfer cases.


Oh yes it will!



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Re: 4Cyl turbo Vs V6 3.0? [Re: TOASTY] #1047240 08/25/13 02:33 AM
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Look in the projectzer0g.com forum for a post by Wild Bill Hincher that summarizes the water reroute work, and in the tech stuff for the old one...


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Re: 4Cyl turbo Vs V6 3.0? [Re: fasteddy] #1047241 03/25/14 12:59 AM
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87monty Offline OP
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Look in the projectzer0g.com forum for a post by Wild Bill Hincher that summarizes the water reroute work, and in the tech stuff for the old one...

I found some stainless fittings I want to use back there now. Didint like the one I made up on the quick.



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Re: 4Cyl turbo Vs V6 3.0? [Re: 87monty] #1047242 09/10/14 03:31 PM
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87monty Offline OP
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For some that are wondering what the hold up of this project is.

I have the 2.4 ready to go in but have sense changed my engine management system to the Haltech 1000
(1800$)Retail. This Ecu system will give me all the tune features I need to manage this setup.
I am close to buying It.

Here is a link to the Haltech Ecu.

http://www.haltech.com/product/platinum-sport-series/the-platinum-sport-1000/



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Re: 4Cyl turbo Vs V6 3.0? [Re: 87monty] #1047243 09/10/14 07:57 PM
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So your thinking of dropping the dsm swap idea in favor of a v6? Im reading that right? Im partial to the idea of a turbo 4cyl in these trucks... but if your changing your mind... I call dibs on buying that tranny you built <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" />


88 Montero, StarQuest turbo, Kormex 5speed +tuff-pan w/phoenix f. stage2 clutch, 4in lift+33' tires, 4.875 lsd, short-throw shifter, Aisin hubs, SR big brakes, gen2 uca's, elantra alt, and so much more... 16g turbo w/hardpipes + 4.90 locking disk-brake axle soon (maybe lsd or aussie front??)
Re: 4Cyl turbo Vs V6 3.0? [Re: Malykaii] #1047244 09/10/14 10:51 PM
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So your thinking of dropping the dsm swap idea in favor of a v6? Im reading that right? Im partial to the idea of a turbo 4cyl in these trucks... but if your changing your mind... I call dibs on buying that tranny you built <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" />


Oh no my friend , I would never go v6 now with this swap, I was just posting I have changed my engine management to Haltech stand alone Ecu thanks all!



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Re: 4Cyl turbo Vs V6 3.0? [Re: 87monty] #1047245 11/25/14 03:03 AM
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87monty Offline OP
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Hi Guys, so its been a long road but She is finally in her home. custom 5 speed and transfer case as well. I need to make a rear cross member mount. The cool thing is I can use my stock Trans mount but just build off from it. I have a lot of detail work to do in the engine bay before I install my new harness. Also I will blow your mind with the engine management im using. The Ecu is from a 2003 Mitsubishi lancer evolution. They are programmable and easy to get. average price 60$ You use a program called EvoScan and Evo flash to upload and download your tune. You will also need a Obd2 flash programmer called Tactrix openport 2.0. Also you have to make a pig tale from a 1gen dsm to evo 4 plug ecu, again not hard if you know how to solder and have some patience. I also will run a evo8 Maf and 750CC injectors. everything is completely tunable and loads of data logging which I love!!




Evo Scan program

Tactrix openport 2.0

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Re: 4Cyl turbo Vs V6 3.0? [Re: 87monty] #1047246 11/25/14 09:28 PM
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87monty Offline OP
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Here is some more info on Evoscan. If anyone is interested.




http://www.evoscan.com/



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Re: 4Cyl turbo Vs V6 3.0? [Re: 87monty] #1047247 11/28/14 04:02 PM
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87monty Offline OP
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Here is. Pic of the stock water outlet . I moved the engine forward about 2 inches to clear and have room to work. I'm making a water outlet to point in the direction I need to run up front .


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Re: 4Cyl turbo Vs V6 3.0? [Re: 87monty] #1047248 11/29/14 11:22 AM
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Dude. This is such a crazy build. Kudos to you. Right now, I'm back and forth between doing the same thing with my 89 SWB or building what haztoys calls the 2.6 "steamshovel." Still very much my daily driver, so it's all up in the air, but man, I've got so much of the 4G63 stuff just lying around after the GVR4s left.

Haven't been in this thread in a long time, but checking now, I've got a couple low-buck ideas you might be interested in before you put this sucker on the road.

1. Evo VIII cams. You're already using the Evo ECU, why not pick up a set of OEM "272" cams for $50-200? Head on the VIII flows opposite direction, but there are a couple ways to skin that cat. The cheap route involves cutting a slot into the end of the Evo intake cam and so your CAS will work properly and re-pinning it to accept the stock cam gear. The easier route involves a set of adjustable cam gears, which tend to be machined for either DSM/EVO. $50-$100 and a couple hours could net you some more HP, considering the stock Evo makes, what, 270hp? With that big hog turbo, you're already sitting very pretty, but if it's OEM quality and cheap, well, something to think about.

Link to specs, brief discussion, etc., over on GalantVR4.org. I've since gotten out of the GVR4 game, but still have my Evo VIII ECU (FedSpec, 4-cylinder, 5-speed Eclipse is the same part, just can't do digital boost control, btw) and cams sitting in the garage.

2. Cyclone intake manifold. It's a bi-modal, dual runner intake manifold for the early (read: 1G) 4G63. This is a pretty trick piece of kit. The primary runners are smaller diameter and longer, which typically nets people 40-50ft-lbs midrange. Once you hit preset conditions (triggered/activated via repurposed boost cut and fuel pump solenoids from any turbo DSM), the little wastegate jobber opens the secondary runners as well, flowing within 5% of the 1G intake manifold. Spools a little quicker, and more grunt building that boost to boot.

There are 3 versions, all of which are relatively rare, but pop up from time to time if you keep an eye out. Typically $150-$200 range. Any of them will do, really. I can't find the thread on the Galant board where a fella and I discussed specifics at length, but there's a turbo version, a non-turbo version, and a non-turbo, AMG version.

Keep up the good work. High five, brother.


Brian DR1665 | GBXM | Gearheads United.
89 Raider SWB [rock] | 91 Galant VR4 [roller]
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