It is a little early to start counting numbers, but we should start spreading the word. Maybe I will post something on the main forum this weekend as well...

I'm running out of time and after the Moab adventure, it is time for this one. I very much want in and I am good for the video aspect of it. jh

Ok, sounds good. Another reason for everyone to start checking in we can see what rigs are coming so we can put a parts list together.

If we are serious about a video thing, I would prefer to keep you near the front of the line. Then you can jump out and film others coming through an obsticle with out slowing the group down. ou will be getting a lot of excersise!

Keep in mind who might want to be a tail gunner as well, with radio, solid rig and winch.

Have not done anything for awhile, but we did a big 4-wheel and off-road article in 99. A nicely edited video could be fun.

offroader can you cross post this on some other montero boards around the net i know you got alot of posting credit around.

On the magazine article, if there is any trails you specifically can think of that are important to you around the Sierras, lets talk about that while I am working on trail line up.

Maybe we could do a regular feature 3-4 times a year or so, something like the adventures of the Gear Box Grinders or something. Real world trail riding is what readers seek, yet rarely find in 4x4 magazines.(primarily due to cost)

L, I cannot remember whether the praise was "never-ending" or "never-starting" from the Moab video, but I'm game to video as best I can. J

Well, this will be a little different, but you never know. We lost 1.5 days and canceled one trail in the Southern Sierras one year after a Four Runner completely dissintegrated after 2 miles on the trail....

i'll have hd video and cameras as well. not sure i'll bring the nikon but i plan to get a hd hero 3 for the trip.

I'm sure I'll forget a camera and end up picking up 2 or 3 disposables again. Usually how it works. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" />

LOVE IT.

I've also got an email in to John here at the Wire to discuss some future collaboration. The way I see it, we can all learn from each other. I bet there are as many people who think this hobby is guys in 6WD G-wagens drifting all over the place as there are people who think rally is all rich kids with Subarus drifting on dirt roads.

I'll make you guys a deal. If you help me with the kind of real world trail riding stories readers seek, yet rarely find, I give you my word I'll keep you in mind when (and if, these are tough times for 99% of us) fancy vendors approach me about testing/trying gear or whatever. And maybe, just maybe, I'll eventually get to the point where this will pay the bills and I can be the guy who asks if he can tag along if he brings a cooler full of bacon-wrapped filet mignon and a keg of Mountain Dew. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Hell. Maybe we can just do a special issue just for this trip, from the back stories influencing the planning today, to the preparation for departure in coming weeks, to the actual carnage on-trail, and a reflective look back at everything we learned, sell it, and split the proceeds 3-ways - everyone who goes on the trip, 4x4wire, and GBXM|united. We probably won't make enough to fill our tanks, but it's something, right?

Press on. I'm excited. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" />