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Re: So, Cali people (and smog techies).. let's talk about the "STAR" system... GRRRRR [Re: DRX350] #1061207 06/27/13 08:59 PM
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Maybe a contact for someone that can custom manufacture the CAT for you if you need one.


Not sure that's a possibility. IIRC, in California you're only allowed to used certain catalytic converters that are already approved by the state. Unless the custom CAT shop has sent one in to be approved, then it won't be an option for us.

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...but I don't believe it is necessary to do anything more than a "sniff" test and general vehicle inspection.

If the tailpipe emissions are within spec, does it really matter if the car has headers/CAI/cam etc..?


I'm with you on that. I think CA is trying to crack down on shops that 'help' <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/evil.gif" alt="" /> you pass vehicles that normally wouldn't pass a smog check. I'm OK with that. What I'm not OK with is making EVERY vehicle owner go through the Star inspection station and charging extra for it especially when 99% or more have never attempted to skirt the process.

So can anyone confirm that this is for ALL pre 2000 vehicles regardless of past test results or just those that barely passed? If I paid extra in the past to ensure my rig is properly maintained and it passed with flying colors, there's no reason I should have to go to a Star Smog Station.

Re: So, Cali people (and smog techies).. let's talk about the "STAR" system... GRRRRR [Re: DRX350] #1061208 06/27/13 09:48 PM
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Maybe a contact for someone that can custom manufacture the CAT for you if you need one. I bought from this Canadian company a couple years ago and found they were the only ones willing to make me a custom CAT.

Thanks for the link, but I shouldn't need a custom one. Texas isn't as strict on the parts themselves. As long as I have one, and it functions well enough to pass the emissions test, There shouldn't be any problems.
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If the tailpipe emissions are within spec, does it really matter if the car has headers/CAI/cam etc..?


That's one good thing about the testing here. As long as any emission systems that were factory installed on the vehicle are intact and functioning properly, They pass.


1994 Mitsubishi Montero LS, Stock (for now)
General class license -KF5UHG
Re: So, Cali people (and smog techies).. let's talk about the "STAR" system... GRRRRR [Re: Ataki] #1061209 07/11/13 11:00 PM
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monte Offline OP
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Well it's time for the SR to go. While I agree with some here, others I don't but in the end, if no one buys it, it's a great 4x4 that's going to get crushed and not even a chance to become a parts car.

If I didn't have RedCar already, it would be my main 4x4 as the extra room and factory locker is nice.

But again, just sad to see this fate to ALOT of cars now. Kinda like the "Cash for Clunkers" deal..

Bad economics.. BUT HEY!! it's Komifornia


1986 SWB Turbo Pajero (aka RedCar). 2" Lift, 33" BFG ATs, Rear locker,Custom 160a Alt, 9000lbs Warn Winch,Con-Ferr Custom built Conferr rack just for RedCar!, Safari Snorkel,3 AGM Deep cycles

1995 SR (Lucky)-SOLD..Kinda sad

Nissan Leaf(Astro), Tesla-S 85kw (Nicoli) & 2014 Rav4EV (Tesla inside)
Re: So, Cali people (and smog techies).. let's talk about the "STAR" system... GRRRRR [Re: monte] #1061210 07/12/13 01:36 AM
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the star program is making car sales to out of state buyers once again........ star program


it dosent have to be surrounded by water to be an island
Re: So, Cali people (and smog techies).. let's talk about the "STAR" system... GRRRRR [Re: pcc] #1061211 07/12/13 04:29 AM
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The price you pay for living in a state with little public transit, high population, and an environment that supports pollution with probably an underground system for passing smoggy vehicles...


...this.

But I'm not sure why everyone is panicing. From what I can tell, a lot of the import racer crowd just doesn't understand what STAR is.

As for me, my '95 SR passed just fine a month or two ago. As long as you have the emissions crap on the car, and it's working, then you have nothing to worry about.

If you still think you have something to worry about, there are other ways to get your car smogged. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/ignore.gif" alt="" />


Sean - Orange County, CA
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1995 Montero SR - For exploring and getting away!
1994 Volvo 850 Turbo - 402hp and counting!
1966 VW Bug 2275cc - For stoplight drags!
Re: So, Cali people (and smog techies).. let's talk about the "STAR" system... GRRRRR [Re: socalmonty] #1061212 07/12/13 07:10 PM
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As long as you have the emissions crap on the car, and it's working, then you have nothing to worry about.


This.^^^

Virtually none of the emissions components on a modern vehicle are detrimental to its performance because the vehicles are designed to work with them from the start, so there's very little improvement to be gained by removing or disabling them. If one of the components has a problem then it should be repaired, just like maintaining anything else on the vehicle. The emissions laws don't require vehicles to pass anything more stringent than what they were designed to pass originally, so if a vehicle doesn't pass then it just needs maintenance or repairs to bring it back to it's original working order. Maintenance and repairs are just part of the responsibility of owning a vehicle.


95 Montero SR
3.8 MIVEC, Advance headers, 2 1/2" exhaust, Magnaflow muffler, OME shocks & rear springs, 2" body lift, 3" tank lift, 4.90s, TRE front locker, factory rear locker, Roger Brown Rock Sliderz, 315/75r16 (35") tires, Sport big brakes
Re: So, Cali people (and smog techies).. let's talk about the "STAR" system... GRRRRR [Re: socalmonty] #1061213 07/13/13 03:33 AM
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If you still think you have something to worry about, there are other ways to get your car smogged.


Not with the new Star system in place.


Michael j

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Grasscat III, 1994 Gen 2 Five speed, Stock ( for a little while )

GrassCat II, 1998 Gen 2.5 Locked and loaded. Ran off with Hector.

GrassCat I, 1991 Gen 1 Ran off with Justice.
Re: So, Cali people (and smog techies).. let's talk about the "STAR" system... GRRRRR [Re: ryany] #1061214 07/13/13 06:52 AM
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Virtually none of the emissions components on a modern vehicle are detrimental to its performance because the vehicles are designed to work with them from the start, so there's very little improvement to be gained by removing or disabling them. If one of the components has a problem then it should be repaired, just like maintaining anything else on the vehicle. The emissions laws don't require vehicles to pass anything more stringent than what they were designed to pass originally, so if a vehicle doesn't pass then it just needs maintenance or repairs to bring it back to it's original working order. Maintenance and repairs are just part of the responsibility of owning a vehicle.


The problem is that the cost is passed directly onto the consumer... YOU. YOU have to pay to have crap that offends you installed on your vehicle.


87 Raider 4D56td v5MT1
31's..Basically Stock
Re: So, Cali people (and smog techies).. let's talk about the "STAR" system... GRRRRR [Re: LandRaider] #1061215 07/13/13 07:31 AM
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Glad I am in a state with visual inspection ONLY. all my stuff is there but my cat is leaking cracked manifold and the rest of the exhaust is held on by force of habit. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" /> Wish I had the $ to ship that SR here... I would love a rust free cali truck. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />


Richard E
1989 Montero - Stock-ish
1989 V6 Auto Raider - 5.3 Vortech Swap.
1987 Mitsubishi Starion 2.6t, soon to be 3.5
1983 Honda XL600R
Re: So, Cali people (and smog techies).. let's talk about the "STAR" system... GRRRRR [Re: Grasscat] #1061216 07/13/13 03:28 PM
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If you still think you have something to worry about, there are other ways to get your car smogged.


Not with the new Star system in place.

Can probably move your residence to a smog free county.
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