Extreme Terrain
4x4Wire Trail Talk Forums: Jeep, Toyota, Mitsubishi, Pajero, Isuzu, Kia, 4WD, 4x4, SUV, Off-Road and OutdoorWire Forums


Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Rate Thread
Page 1 of 2 1 2
Interesting diff lock option #1064593 10/03/13 04:47 PM
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 188
tonygon Offline OP
Wheeler
Ive heard of using your e-brake with lsd to send traction to the good wheel, but i had never thought of anything like this.... Its not rocket science or anything but it works. Or maybe you guys had seen this and im too much of a newbie. What do you guys thinkk about this? Pretty much the guy has 2 rear e-brake cables one for each wheel, with 2 levers of course. Locks the wheel in the air with e-brake and voila!!
http://youtu.be/_3oKJWRTjhs

Just thought id share, hope everyone is having a great day!


1988 MONTERO SWB 2.6L 5SPEEED MANUAL, 96SR LOCKED REAR, 8INCH FRONT LSD FRONT, AISIN MANUAL HUBS, CUSTOM F & R BUMPERS, ROCK SLIDERS, TUBE HALF DOORS, 9K WINCH, HOMEMADE SNORKLE, SOME OTHER STUFF.
Re: Interesting diff lock option [Re: tonygon] #1064594 10/03/13 05:39 PM
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 6,134
TOASTY Offline
Trail Leader
*****
It really works when you have crawler gears to power though the brakes though.


1999 Montero SAS'd on Kings and stuff

1998 Montero trying to get a V8 Swapped
Re: Interesting diff lock option [Re: TOASTY] #1064595 10/03/13 07:46 PM
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 188
tonygon Offline OP
Wheeler
Quote
It really works when you have crawler gears to power though the brakes though.


The point of individual e-brakes is to fully lock the one in the air and not lock the one you want to turn, Then you release the brake once the flying wheel is on the ground. So you wont be going through brake shoes or pads.


1988 MONTERO SWB 2.6L 5SPEEED MANUAL, 96SR LOCKED REAR, 8INCH FRONT LSD FRONT, AISIN MANUAL HUBS, CUSTOM F & R BUMPERS, ROCK SLIDERS, TUBE HALF DOORS, 9K WINCH, HOMEMADE SNORKLE, SOME OTHER STUFF.
Re: Interesting diff lock option [Re: tonygon] #1064596 10/03/13 09:38 PM
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 7,458
rxinhed Offline
Trail Leader
*****
Only works with an LSD or electronic brake system. I've tried this work open axles on buggies...cutting brakes...but for different purposes.

Re: Interesting diff lock option [Re: rxinhed] #1064597 10/03/13 10:10 PM
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 188
tonygon Offline OP
Wheeler
Quote
Only works with an LSD or electronic brake system. I've tried this work open axles on buggies...cutting brakes...but for different purposes.


I might not be understanding myself, or not explaining right. The guy has an OPEN carier. Think about it, why is the wheel in the air always the one to turn? Cause its the one with less traction. What if u have one rear wheel in the air and the other firm on ground, then you stick a huge prybar through your wheel thats off the ground so it can rest on the leaf spring locking that wheel 100%? Then the wheel on firm ground would have "less traction" than the wheel that cant possibly turn because of the prybar. Then the traction would be sent to the grounded tire.
No? Thats what it looks like to me and also according to what the dudes are saying in spanish. I dont think ive had any drugs or alcohol <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" />


1988 MONTERO SWB 2.6L 5SPEEED MANUAL, 96SR LOCKED REAR, 8INCH FRONT LSD FRONT, AISIN MANUAL HUBS, CUSTOM F & R BUMPERS, ROCK SLIDERS, TUBE HALF DOORS, 9K WINCH, HOMEMADE SNORKLE, SOME OTHER STUFF.
Re: Interesting diff lock option [Re: tonygon] #1064598 10/03/13 11:01 PM
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 13,649
fasteddy Offline
Web Wheeler
*****
I first used this system on a Meyers Manx, the first dune buggyt, in the 60's. There were no traction aids for a veedub diff, so we had to finagle it. It works with lsd's, by preloading the lsd clutches, and will work somewhat with open diffs to transfer some of the torque to the wheel with most traction, not near as much as an lsd, but some is better than none, and it's gotten me out of stucks.

It is no replacement for an lsd or locker.


Not responsible for advice not taken...
Re: Interesting diff lock option [Re: tonygon] #1064599 10/04/13 01:00 AM
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 918
motero Offline
Rock Warrior
Tony, you are correct and yes it works. But a locker is so much better.


99 Montero....15mpg! Sold (so sad)
02 Jetta TDI....48mpg!
03 2500 Ram QCLB Cummins....18mpg
02 2500 Yukon XL, We out grew the montero, at least it has one locker.....13mpg (sold)
01 montero limited
Re: Interesting diff lock option [Re: motero] #1064600 10/04/13 02:12 AM
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 2,649
Grasscat Offline
Roll Me Over
****
Farm tractors have been using a similar system for years. A peddle for each rear wheel so you can turn on a dime, right or left.


Michael j

TreadLightly! Trainer

Grasscat III, 1994 Gen 2 Five speed, Stock ( for a little while )

GrassCat II, 1998 Gen 2.5 Locked and loaded. Ran off with Hector.

GrassCat I, 1991 Gen 1 Ran off with Justice.
Re: Interesting diff lock option [Re: Grasscat] #1064601 10/04/13 02:29 AM
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 7,458
rxinhed Offline
Trail Leader
*****
What I said already. My racer & buggy friends called them cutting brakes, one handle for each rear wheel. On the flats or in the dunes, you could turn a buggy around in 1.5 times the length of the car.

Re: Interesting diff lock option [Re: rxinhed] #1064602 10/04/13 03:38 AM
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 7,356
MontyMcV Offline
Trail Leader
I've seen buggies blast up really hills. If they think they don't top out, they risk flipping backwards. Keeping the gas on and grabbing one rear brake lever and like Russ says, they can turn nearly on a dime under the free tire. Points them back down the hill for another run.


Big Truck: 00, 3.5, Endeavor, 5-Spd drive line in hand!
Little Truck: 87, 2.6T I/C, MT, LSDs, Tonneau Top
Her Truck: 03, 3.8, 20th Anniv, 65k
Daughter's: 06 Eclipse, Keeping it Mitsu!
FSMs: MitsubishiLinks.com
Page 1 of 2 1 2







4x4Wire Social:

| 4x4Wire on FaceBook |


OutdoorWire, 4x4Wire, JeepWire, TrailTalk, MUIRNet-News, and 4x4Voice are all trademarks and publications of OutdoorWire, Inc. and MUIRNet Consulting.
Copyright (c) 1999-2019 OutdoorWire, Inc and MUIRNet Consulting - All Rights Reserved, no part of this publication may be reproduced in any form without express written permission
You may link freely to this site, but no further use is allowed without the express written permission of the owner of this material.
All corporate trademarks are the property of their respective owners.

Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.3
(Release build 20190728)
PHP: 7.4.33 Page Time: 2.521s Queries: 16 (0.008s) Memory: 0.6402 MB (Peak: 0.7648 MB) Data Comp: Off Server Time: 2026-07-14 19:53:30 UTC
Valid HTML 5 and Valid CSS