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Re: Low oil pressure during idle - Help? [Re: RockU] #1066724 11/27/13 08:40 PM
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Jasper engine? I dropped (replaced original) when I was living in Mesa Arizona because the original already had 150-170K on it (low power), so I purchased an replacement (came from Washington state). However, I continually had emission issues, so it sat and I just hauled it all over the US (moved to Utah, Virginia, then to Washington).... So the engine doesn't have anymore than 8-10K miles on it....


Jasper is a use engine place that has had questionable reliability based on others experiences.


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Re: Low oil pressure during idle - Help? [Re: RockU] #1066725 11/27/13 10:52 PM
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What brand of oil filter are you running? There's something causing pressure to vary considerably at some point, and while the oil filter is very unlikely to be any part of it, it's easy to change; they have a valve in them to bypass the filter if they get full and it's just a thought.

More likely is the pressure regulator thingy, the part that has the rubber shoe on it and keeps tension on the timing chain. This particular part(s) can likely be replaced by removing the timing chain only (can't remember) without removing the balance shaft chain. It sounds like it may be that, but I'll let others have a look at what I'm thinking and comment further.

John B.

Re: Low oil pressure during idle - Help? [Re: JohnnyBfromPeoria] #1066726 11/28/13 12:39 AM
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The oil pressure relief piston is different from the tensioner. The relief is under a hex headed cap at the top of the pump, pointing to the dside.

The first step is to use a mechanical gauge to test the pressure. Remove the sensor, and use a std. plumbing 60psi gauge with a 1/4" pipe thread male adapter attached. Use a 1/4"npt tap to ream out the block threads to a shallow depth. The sensor will still fit with teflon tape. Test the oil pressure at idle and at around 4k rpms. You want 10psi per 1000 rpms.

I'd send an oil sample to Blackstone Labs to look for bearing metal, too. Much better than trying to eyeball the drained oil.

I'm concerned about the knock. Jasper reuses lots of parts, like oil pumps. It's possible to shim the oil pump relief spring with a flat washer the size of the spring in the hex cap to boost pressure if the oil pump is ok. It's possible the relief vavle piston is hanging in the bore partially open. The bore has a hole in the side which is uncovered by the piston when the pressure overcomes the spring pressure and pushes the piston far enough to uncover the port. The released oil goes back into the pan.

With the mech gauge in place, look for a flutter in the pressure, indicating a bearing with too much clearance. This will require an engine rebuild.


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Re: Low oil pressure during idle - Help? [Re: fasteddy] #1066727 11/28/13 02:34 AM
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I was hoping FE would respond. I'm good at getting a lot of things wrong! I was in the area, though...

John B.

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