Man Bill, that's really gracious of you. The codes have always come on shortly after starting. I think the longest they ever went was around 45 minutes, during a highway trip. Around town, they come on within the first few minutes. Not always in the same order, or the same lights at the same time. I'm really worried this is going to turn into a lemon for me <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> Not what I need right now (but then again, when does anyone need a lemon?). Could my car damage your alternator? I really don't want that to happen.