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 I know the answer will be "NO" but ???
#1070701
04/08/14 10:38 PM
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On a 6g72- 95 montero ls 3.0 24v
Is it possible to fix the lash adjusters without removing the timing belt or at least releasing the tension?
I'd like to not have to tear it back down that far but my brain says if I don't release the timing belt - the tension on the cam is going cause problems.
I hate shops! I sent my heads in to to done and when I picked them up - I caught them with their pants down.
They had put one of the cams in backwards - of course they said I was wrong and they had done it right. But when I made them put the heads side by side it was obvious. You can get both right or both wrong- I told they were stupid when because one was completely backwards- they had the exhaust ports facing in on the pass head.
So they swapped it around- now after installing it- the noise from the lash adjusters is driving me crazy! So my project for this coming weekend is to adjust or replace the lash adjusters.
Last edited by rskvjk; 04/18/14 05:46 PM.
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Re: I know the answer will be "NO" but ???
[Re: rskvjk]
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04/08/14 10:47 PM
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How about "probably" for an answer?
I think you can take off the rocker assy, or at least loosen the bolts almost all the way, and get room to take out the lash adjusters. It's also possible to bleed the adjusters with a blunted pin. There's a tiny hole on top of the rocker, over the lash adjuster. Insert the pin to depress the check ball in the HLA and press down on the adjuster. This should vent any air. If you pull the adjusters, get about a pint of diesel fuel and a small pan/container about 1.5" deep. Put the adjusters in the pan and pump them while submerged in diesel fuel. This primes and flushes the adjusters. If you have one that won't pump, install a new one in it's place. You may have to depress the check ball to flush the HLA. Cleaning them in dexron may help them work better...
Last edited by fasteddy; 04/08/14 10:49 PM.
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Re: I know the answer will be "NO" but ???
[Re: fasteddy]
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04/08/14 11:00 PM
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WOOT! I'm going to try it.
However, if I have to take it all the way down - that's fine too. I need to replace the head gaskets anyway. I used the pressed metal ones that came in the kit and even though I made double sure to torque the head bolts down properly - there is still a small coolant leak come from both heads.
I wonder if fel-pro makes good head gaskets......
Also I need to rework the injectors - I didn't touch them in the rebuild but I'm losing fuel pressure when i shut off the engine so I'm hoping replacing all the rubber will fix that issue.
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Re: I know the answer will be "NO" but ???
[Re: rskvjk]
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04/08/14 11:12 PM
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I wonder if fel-pro makes good head gaskets......
Also I need to rework the injectors - I didn't touch them in the rebuild but I'm losing fuel pressure when i shut off the engine so I'm hoping replacing all the rubber will fix that issue. Yes, Fel Pro makes good head gaskets. If replacing the rubber sets in the injectors doesn't cure it, you can send the injectors to Cruizin Performance web page for a complete rebuild, including balancing of flow. You would be unable to drive the vehicle during that time, obviously. John B.
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Re: I know the answer will be "NO" but ???
[Re: JohnnyBfromPeoria]
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04/08/14 11:14 PM
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MLS head gaskets should have sealed on good surfaces. Ditto the injector cleaning.
This might be the one time I'd advise using a good stop leak product for the coolant leak, then immediately flush the cooling system...
Last edited by fasteddy; 04/08/14 11:16 PM.
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Re: I know the answer will be "NO" but ???
[Re: fasteddy]
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04/09/14 05:30 AM
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In addition to fasteddy's comments, I posted some photos of what I did to service my lash adjusters a few weeks ago. Have you seen that thread? 1989 V6 - Servicing your Hydraulic Lash Adjusters
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Re: I know the answer will be "NO" but ???
[Re: Jay Ayala]
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04/10/14 01:16 AM
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Ok, I think I found my leak. Intake manifold gaskets were leaking filling my valves with coolant. I guess that explains why I kicking out so much white smoke. Oil looks good - that is no coolant in it.
lol- still debating on pulling the heads anyway.
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Re: I know the answer will be "NO" but ???
[Re: rskvjk]
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04/10/14 01:35 AM
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Before I went to that trouble, I'd do some easier testing. I'd either use a radiator pressure tester to see if the head gasket is leaking, or do a combustion products test on the coolant. You'll have to reinstall the intake to do either, but it comes back off easy if you have to, and I don't think you will.
Getting a good seal on the lower mani is tough. I do it thus. Use a good copper based gasket sealant on the gaskets, Indian Head or KopperKoat or equal. Apply and let it tack up. Set the mani in place, and start the bolts to just past finger tight, and tap the mani to settle it in, tighten to about half torque, and tap again. Then tighten to full torque. Getting the mani into the 60* vee is tough, as the bolt tension is downwards and the gasket pressure is wide to the side. I like loctite on the lower mani bolts.
By the way, some on the forum have had decent luck with a product called (I think) Steel Seal...
Last edited by fasteddy; 04/10/14 01:37 AM.
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Re: I know the answer will be "NO" but ???
[Re: fasteddy]
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04/10/14 01:53 AM
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Before I went to that trouble, I'd do some easier testing. I'd either use a radiator pressure tester to see if the head gasket is leaking, or do a combustion products test on the coolant. You'll have to reinstall the intake to do either, but it comes back off easy if you have to, and I don't think you will.
Getting a good seal on the lower mani is tough. I do it thus. Use a good copper based gasket sealant on the gaskets, Indian Head or KopperKoat or equal. Apply and let it tack up. Set the mani in place, and start the bolts to just past finger tight, and tap the mani to settle it in, tighten to about half torque, and tap again. Then tighten to full torque. Getting the mani into the 60* vee is tough, as the bolt tension is downwards and the gasket pressure is wide to the side. I like loctite on the lower mani bolts.
By the way, some on the forum have had decent luck with a product called (I think) Steel Seal... FE, it's been a long time since I said this (or a long time since I've said much on here truthfully), but at risk of taking this thread sideways for a second, its this kind of simple straightforward advice from you and several handfuls of others over the years that elevates this forum head and shoulders above the others, IMHO. Thanks again. You make us great. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" />
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Re: I know the answer will be "NO" but ???
[Re: fasteddy]
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04/10/14 02:04 AM
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Before I went to that trouble, I'd do some easier testing. I'd either use a radiator pressure tester to see if the head gasket is leaking, or do a combustion products test on the coolant. You'll have to reinstall the intake to do either, but it comes back off easy if you have to, and I don't think you will. I was actually thinking of a leak down test on ea cylinder since I already tore everything off except the timing belt and valve covers. lol, I tend to get over zealous and go all gong ho.
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