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Gen II has a smoking habit #1072559 06/23/14 10:03 PM
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 448
jdavis Offline OP
Mudrunner
I recently swapped the motor in my 95 SR.

The engine was used, shipped up from Cali. Don't know how long it had been sitting.

After dropping the motor in, the valves were ticking pretty bad and its puffing lots of blue smoke.

A couple doses of Seafoam and few oil changes has quieted the valves down but has not helped the blue smoke issue. When driving around town, the smoke is not that noticeable. When on the trial and the engine is idling a lot it's really visible when first get back on the gas. Big, big, big clouds of smoke....

What I'm trying to determine is the issue the valve seals or rings. Is there away to determine?

Any thoughts or insight would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
~ Jon


95 Montero SR
33 x 12.50
Aussie Locker
OME Heavy Duty Coils & Torsion Bars
ARB Front Bumper
76" Trail Gear Rock Sliders
XRC-9.5K Winch
Re: Gen II has a smoking habit [Re: jdavis] #1072560 06/24/14 12:05 AM
Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 56
Djunk Offline
Getting the Wheeling Fever
From what I've gathered off this site is that your problem is most likely the valve stem seals. You could do a leak down test or a dry and wet commpession test to determine if it's the VSS or the rings. I'm sure Fast eddy or someone with much more knowledge will chime in. Good luck.


94 SR Bought for $650. New Crank, Updated Lower Intake plenum, 15x8 procomp wheels driver side Bouncy Seat, Stock mitsu rear locker. Up coming mods; 35x12.5x15 Goodyear wrangler Kevlars, safari style roof rack, 2" BL, Spring spacers or OME springs, recovery gear.
Re: Gen II has a smoking habit [Re: Djunk] #1072561 06/24/14 02:55 AM
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fasteddy Offline
Web Wheeler
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Almost sure it's VSS, but do the dry and wet compression test to be sure.

You aren't really burning oil. It's leaking past the exh vss's and vaporizing in the hot exhaust stream. It leaks more under high manifold vacuum for some reason, which is why you get the big puff after hot idling.


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Re: Gen II has a smoking habit [Re: jdavis] #1072562 06/24/14 04:24 AM
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 1,758
Jay Ayala Offline
Body Damage is Cool
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...blue smoke...

Hi jdavis,
I recently learned a lot about smoke emissions after my most recent overhaul. According to the Oregon's DEQ, the significance of the color of smoke is listed below.

Here are a few links you may find helpful. In regards to your hydraulic lash adjusters, you may as well service them while you are at it.
1989 V6 - Replacement Valve Seals - Rope Trick
1989 V6 - Servicing your Hydraulic Lash Adjusters


Blue smoke is an indication of oil burning.
White smoke is an indication of coolant burning.
Black smoke is an indication of fuel burning.

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89 Raider - V6, Automatic, rear LSD, A/C Retrofit, Cruise Control Retrofit.
Re: Gen II has a smoking habit [Re: jdavis] #1072563 06/24/14 05:21 AM
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Posts: 448
jdavis Offline OP
Mudrunner
Thanks for the responses!!

The compression test rang a bell. I did a test before dropping the engine in. I don't remember the results but must of not been too bad since I moved forward with installing the engine.

Jay thanks for the links. Is the process basically the same for the 3.0 and 3.5 engines?

Looking on Rock Auto for the seals and find it a bit confusing. BECK/ARNLEY has two part numbers for exhaust and intake then VICTOR REINZ and DNJ show only one part number.

Which brand do you think is better and are the parts different for exhaust and intake?

~ Jon


95 Montero SR
33 x 12.50
Aussie Locker
OME Heavy Duty Coils & Torsion Bars
ARB Front Bumper
76" Trail Gear Rock Sliders
XRC-9.5K Winch
Re: Gen II has a smoking habit [Re: jdavis] #1072564 06/24/14 09:23 AM
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 1,193
mxmikie Offline
Body Damage is Cool
i rent out the tool to change the seals if you need it


it dosent have to be surrounded by water to be an island
Re: Gen II has a smoking habit [Re: mxmikie] #1072565 06/24/14 07:01 PM
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 448
jdavis Offline OP
Mudrunner
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i rent out the tool to change the seals if you need it


Thanks for the heads up Mxmikie!!

What is the tool? The spring compressor?

Thanks,
~ Jon


95 Montero SR
33 x 12.50
Aussie Locker
OME Heavy Duty Coils & Torsion Bars
ARB Front Bumper
76" Trail Gear Rock Sliders
XRC-9.5K Winch
Re: Gen II has a smoking habit [Re: jdavis] #1072566 06/25/14 01:04 PM
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 1,193
mxmikie Offline
Body Damage is Cool
yes so you can do them on the car


it dosent have to be surrounded by water to be an island
Re: Gen II has a smoking habit [Re: jdavis] #1072567 07/24/14 07:35 AM
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 448
jdavis Offline OP
Mudrunner
Finally getting serious about replacing the VSSs and will replace HLAs as needed.

The parts list I'm putting together is:
* VSS - DNJ ENGINE COMPONENTS Part # VSS126 - http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/catalog.php?carcode=1207842&parttype=5800
* HLA - ENGINETECH Part # L2250 - http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/catalog.php?carcode=1207842&parttype=5548
* Valve Cover Gasket Kit - MAGNUM Part # VS25001 - http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/catalog.php?carcode=1207842&parttype=10710
* Spring Compressor - http://www.euroexportinc.com/mitsubishi-4g63-valve-spring-compressor
______Can anyone confirm Euroeportinc 4g63 tool will work on the 3.5 engine
* PCV Valve - FRAM Part # FV350 - http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/moreinfo.php?pk=56101&cc=1207842

Anything other parts that should be replaced while in there? Already have new plugs, wires, coils, timing belt....

Also, am I correct in the assumption that the timimg belt needs to come off to do this?

Thanks,
~ Jon


95 Montero SR
33 x 12.50
Aussie Locker
OME Heavy Duty Coils & Torsion Bars
ARB Front Bumper
76" Trail Gear Rock Sliders
XRC-9.5K Winch
Re: Gen II has a smoking habit [Re: jdavis] #1072568 07/24/14 07:44 AM
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 448
jdavis Offline OP
Mudrunner
Finally getting serious about replacing the VSSs and will replace HLAs as needed.

The parts list I'm putting together is:
* VSS - DNJ ENGINE COMPONENTS Part # VSS126 - http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/catalog.php?carcode=1207842&parttype=5800
* HLA - ENGINETECH Part # L2250 - http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/catalog.php?carcode=1207842&parttype=5548
* Valve Cover Gasket Kit - MAGNUM Part # VS25001 - http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/catalog.php?carcode=1207842&parttype=10710
* Spring Compressor - http://www.euroexportinc.com/mitsubishi-4g63-valve-spring-compressor
______Can anyone confirm Euroeportinc 4g63 tool will work on the 3.5 engine
* PCV Valve - FRAM Part # FV350 - http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/moreinfo.php?pk=56101&cc=1207842

Anything other parts that should be replaced while in there? Already have new plugs, wires, coils, timing belt....

Also, am I correct in the assumption that the timimg belt needs to come off to do this?

Thanks,
~ Jon


95 Montero SR
33 x 12.50
Aussie Locker
OME Heavy Duty Coils & Torsion Bars
ARB Front Bumper
76" Trail Gear Rock Sliders
XRC-9.5K Winch
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