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Re: I need a distributor plug [Re: crazyhal] #1073939 10/20/14 03:29 AM
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Happy I could help ...I found out the cars of the same time are the same is Montero on the 90 to 92 dist plug ...I may have a ECU ... If anyone needs the box let me know ...

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Re: I need a distributor plug [Re: haztoys] #1073940 10/20/14 04:47 AM
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There are two crank angle sensors in the dizzy. Both are photocell/led pairs with a slotted wheel on the dizzy shaft, one set of slots with 6 and one with 36 (may be off one on both) that provide a coarse and fine measurement of crank angle to the ecu. If you have no signal, either the led or the photocell has died, or, most likely, the wiring connections have failed. Test the circuit from the new plug to the ecu with a battery for signal source. I use those straight pins with a plastic ball on the end to pierce wires to detect voltage. Check the ecu connector for a loose pin. They lose their grip on the connector housing and get pushed back when it's plugged in. Mitsu has a habit of using wires that get brittle insulation after long exposure to heat, and that can crack and over time the wire at the crack breaks from fatigue from flexing. Check all the wires inside the dizzy...


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Re: I need a distributor plug [Re: fasteddy] #1073941 10/20/14 03:08 PM
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There are two crank angle sensors in the dizzy. Both are photocell/led pairs with a slotted wheel on the dizzy shaft, one set of slots with 6 and one with 36 (may be off one on both) that provide a coarse and fine measurement of crank angle to the ecu. If you have no signal, either the led or the photocell has died, or, most likely, the wiring connections have failed. Test the circuit from the new plug to the ecu with a battery for signal source. I use those straight pins with a plastic ball on the end to pierce wires to detect voltage. Check the ecu connector for a loose pin. They lose their grip on the connector housing and get pushed back when it's plugged in. Mitsu has a habit of using wires that get brittle insulation after long exposure to heat, and that can crack and over time the wire at the crack breaks from fatigue from flexing. Check all the wires inside the dizzy...

i used an LED to check cam and crank signals from distributor and both working.i guess it has to be pin 28 on ecu not getting signal.ill check wiring tonight. thanks


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Re: I need a distributor plug [Re: crazyhal] #1073942 10/21/14 11:38 PM
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crazyhal Offline OP
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according to factory manual ecu connectors 21 and 22 are for the distributor sensors but #22 is blank. any ideas?


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Re: I need a distributor plug [Re: crazyhal] #1073943 10/22/14 04:28 AM
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Peel the tape on that harness and look for a red wire, only solid red wire in that bundle, and see if the pin was pushed back out of the connector. If so, pry up the little tang on the pin so it will catch in the connector again. If no wire, you got me - maybe the 'lectron gremlins ate it...

Like you, I guess, I'm looking at the 91fsm. Should be the same as the 90, different from the 89, but the 89 manual has a much more complete description of how to disassemble the connectors.


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Re: I need a distributor plug [Re: fasteddy] #1073944 10/22/14 04:20 PM
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crazyhal Offline OP
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Peel the tape on that harness and look for a red wire, only solid red wire in that bundle, and see if the pin was pushed back out of the connector. If so, pry up the little tang on the pin so it will catch in the connector again. If no wire, you got me - maybe the 'lectron gremlins ate it...

Like you, I guess, I'm looking at the 91fsm. Should be the same as the 90, different from the 89, but the 89 manual has a much more complete description of how to disassemble the connectors.
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Red wire looks good. For some reason the power Transistor is not receiving triggering signal from the ECM. Wish I knew of someone semi near me that could fix my truck.


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Re: I need a distributor plug [Re: crazyhal] #1073945 10/22/14 06:56 PM
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Sending ECM back to GoECM to have it checked out. 4.3 gm would be nice.


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Re: I need a distributor plug [Re: crazyhal] #1073946 10/22/14 07:36 PM
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You may be on the right track there. Spark failure is commonly the first sign of ecu cap leakage damage.

I'm a little confused. You say the 22 position in the connector is blank, but that the wire was good? I may have some understanding. Position 9 in the connector is blank, and would be above 21. Most connector nubering on Mitsu's is R-L, in this case 1-12 on the top (connector catch up) row, and 13-24 in the bottom row.


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Re: I need a distributor plug [Re: fasteddy] #1073947 10/22/14 08:40 PM
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You may be on the right track there. Spark failure is commonly the first sign of ecu cap leakage damage.

I'm a little confused. You say the 22 position in the connector is blank, but that the wire was good? I may have some understanding. Position 9 in the connector is blank, and would be above 21. Most connector nubering on Mitsu's is R-L, in this case 1-12 on the top (connector catch up) row, and 13-24 in the bottom row.

i had ecm rebuilt last year by goecm in grand prairie texas...prolly not bad but i gotta know for sure. i was going by pin numbering in the 1990 service manual that was in truck when i purchased it.


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Re: I need a distributor plug [Re: fasteddy] #1073948 10/26/14 03:59 AM
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You may be on the right track there. Spark failure is commonly the first sign of ecu cap leakage damage.


All (and few) bad cap ecu "I" have been around will hammer up and down on idle ... But I'm sure thats me ..

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