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Re: Ignition switch bypass [Re: Mudraider] #1076480 01/25/15 06:03 PM
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JohnnyBfromPeoria Offline
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My '86 has a fancy push button switch. I used a door switch from a microwave oven. Ran a hot lead from the battery to one side of the switch and the other lead to the spade terminal on the starter. You turn the key to 'run' then touch the little button on the switch, which is pretty well hidden under the edge of the dash and secured with some heavy duty Velcro. Of course no one should do this, since it violates all rules of safe wiring, but it's what I did anyway.

Most every microwave has three of those switches next to the door latches and they are small, but you have to test them to make sure you're getting one that closes when you push the button, not one that opens since they use both types.

John B.


'87 Raider 2.6 Turbo Auto, Under Construction
'95 Montero SR, 35x12.5/15 BFG M/T KM-2's, Rock sliders, Qtr panel chop, gas tank lift, 2" BL, Aisins, 5.29s
'95 Pajero Mini
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Re: Ignition switch bypass [Re: Jay Ayala] #1076481 01/25/15 06:36 PM
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Kevin C Offline
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Are the tumblers broken? Key won't turn in the barrel?
or
Key turns but starter does not engage?

If it is the latter then you may want to read this thread.
Twitchy ignition revisited - 1989 V6


Once you know your main battery cables are good, IMHO this is a nice improvement over stock. The factory runs a lot through the ignition switch and if your adding extra loads, the voltage drops can cause problems.

An alternative to running all your loads through a relay is to just separate out one or two of the larger one. The first one that comes to mind is to separate out the directionals / marker lights or see if LED bulbs with an electronic flasher would reduce draw and still flash.

The rear defroster is another candidate.


87 Turbo Intercooled Raider, roller cam, torsen rear diff, LSD front diff, lockup auto with modified converter, V6 brakes, low transfer case gears...
Re: Ignition switch bypass [Re: JohnnyBfromPeoria] #1076482 01/26/15 05:45 AM
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Mudraider Offline
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My '86 has a fancy push button switch. I used a door switch from a microwave oven. Ran a hot lead from the battery to one side of the switch and the other lead to the spade terminal on the starter. You turn the key to 'run' then touch the little button on the switch, which is pretty well hidden under the edge of the dash and secured with some heavy duty Velcro. Of course no one should do this, since it violates all rules of safe wiring, but it's what I did anyway.

Most every microwave has three of those switches next to the door latches and they are small, but you have to test them to make sure you're getting one that closes when you push the button, not one that opens since they use both types.

John B.


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Re: Ignition switch bypass [Re: jdavis] #1076483 01/26/15 08:23 AM
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bodyswapped8789 Offline
Mudrunner
If I was to do it would use something like this and just figure a cool way to install it. Hard wired of corse.
http://www.carid.com/actron/20-amp-heavy-duty-remote-starter-switch-mpn-cp7854.html

Last edited by bodyswapped8789; 01/26/15 08:24 AM.

89 V6 manual trans Dodge Raider frame 87 cold weather pkg 2" body lift, Soft 8's wraped in BFG km2 33x10.5x15, JDM Pajero yellow Bosch fogs. Yackama basket. Duel bouncies gen II rear springs,gen II ft brakes,master and booster.
Re: Ignition switch bypass [Re: bodyswapped8789] #1076484 01/27/15 04:39 AM
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Mudraider Offline
Body Damage is Cool
Summit, Jegs, all sell switches that would do that. Off-On-Momentary On. The fun begins powering up everything else that gets turned on by the ignition switch.


89 SWB, V-6 5SPD, OME Shocks, 16.5X37's, 2"BL, SR axle, Gen2 brakes, Lincoln w/Superwinch
Re: Ignition switch bypass [Re: jdavis] #1076485 01/27/15 07:49 AM
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Oso Offline
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mine is doing the same thing. I'm interested in how/what you rig as a fix. i'd been toying with the idea of using the cigarette lighter as a kill switch, now i'm thinking as a momentary to engage the starter.


90 LWB - Not your average bear

"You are what you are, and you ain't what you ain't." - John Prine
Re: Ignition switch bypass [Re: Oso] #1076486 01/27/15 08:41 PM
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jdavis Offline OP
Mudrunner
This weekend going to dig into the wiring from battery to the starter.

Once I feel the wiring is stable will look at wiring in a relay and momentary button for starting.

My initial thought is to use key to power the relay by splicing into the ignition switch wiring.

Maybe use a button like this but replace relay with something beefier if need.

So, the process would be turn key to on position, then hit button to fire engine.

~ Jon


95 Montero SR
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