I followed a Suburban up a moderate trail in Colorado one time, and it was a hoot, he would just pinball off trees and obstacles as he went, and with so much body metal you can cave it in for a long time. Then at each big obstacle he would swap out his drive shaft for a massively bent one, drive up smashing on ledges and rocks, then re-install the straight one. A suburban certainly adds challenge. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/shiner.gif" alt="" />