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gen 1:: rebuild my 5 speed tranny or covert to 4cyl auto for same ? #1078782 08/11/15 07:18 PM
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TresMon Offline OP
Mudrunner
Si I need to get my Raider back on the road asap. Should I rebuild my km145 5 speed with a tuf pan or convert it to a 4cyl. Auto tranny for about the same price??
im doing good to get 40k miles out of a km145 but never had a tough pan and never ran Redline MTL 90 weight that is supposed to make brass synchros last way longer........


--Tres
(John 14:6)

Black 87' Raider
2.6L/Webber 88
5 Speed
Welded front,tight LSD in the rear
Removed bump stops
4'x6' roof rack
10k. Lb. winch on receiver hitch/custom bumper
100 amp alt
CB radio/AC inverter
S.Winch hubs
Enormous RV battery
Re: gen 1:: rebuild my 5 speed tranny or covert to 4cyl auto for same ? [Re: TresMon] #1078783 08/12/15 05:46 AM
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90rustymontero Offline
Getting the Wheeling Fever
So, just my 2 cents.... I would switch to the auto transmission. The autos are known to be a lot stronger than the manuals.


1989 Mitsubishi Montero SWB V6, Aisin manual hubs, gen 2 front brakes/rotors, rear LSD, A44DL lock-up transmission, BFG 33's.
Re: gen 1:: rebuild my 5 speed tranny or covert to 4cyl auto for same ? [Re: TresMon] #1078784 08/12/15 03:33 PM
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monte Offline
Mudrunner
I don't see why on a stock 2.6? With a turbo 2.6 pushing LOTS of power the only thing really wrong was the 5th/overdrive gear always blowing up (I went through 2 of them)

Once I did the "AUTO CONVERSION FROM HELL" (search for my thread) you won't believe how much power is sucked away.

Is it nice? Yeah.. it's a slushbox.. and bulletproof

But you'll want the 5sp back. I promise.

P.S. to convert to auto isn't just peaches and cream <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" />


1986 SWB Turbo Pajero (aka RedCar). 2" Lift, 33" BFG ATs, Rear locker,Custom 160a Alt, 9000lbs Warn Winch,Con-Ferr Custom built Conferr rack just for RedCar!, Safari Snorkel,3 AGM Deep cycles

1995 SR (Lucky)-SOLD..Kinda sad

Nissan Leaf(Astro), Tesla-S 85kw (Nicoli) & 2014 Rav4EV (Tesla inside)
Re: gen 1:: rebuild my 5 speed tranny or covert to 4cyl auto for same ? [Re: monte] #1078785 08/12/15 06:37 PM
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TresMon Offline OP
Mudrunner
Thanks so much for the input!


--Tres
(John 14:6)

Black 87' Raider
2.6L/Webber 88
5 Speed
Welded front,tight LSD in the rear
Removed bump stops
4'x6' roof rack
10k. Lb. winch on receiver hitch/custom bumper
100 amp alt
CB radio/AC inverter
S.Winch hubs
Enormous RV battery
Re: gen 1:: rebuild my 5 speed tranny or covert to 4cyl auto for same ? [Re: TresMon] #1078786 08/12/15 07:20 PM
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 2,348
Mudraider Offline
Body Damage is Cool
The auto as said is bulletproof. It's basically the same Trans for the V6. Also as said, drains power I guess. Seemed slower getting to speed. Once there, seemed to hold it easier. Inertia I would imagine of the heavier torque converter assembly. Never had an issue with my 5 speed. When I got it, it had 280,000 miles on it, it belonged to a traveling salesman. I put some new GL4 in it, along with a Tuff Pan. Ran 30,000 miles without any issues, using 31's, 32's, and 33's. Still shifted smooth as silk when I gave it to the eldest son, him running 35's.


89 SWB, V-6 5SPD, OME Shocks, 16.5X37's, 2"BL, SR axle, Gen2 brakes, Lincoln w/Superwinch
Re: gen 1:: rebuild my 5 speed tranny or covert to 4cyl auto for same ? [Re: Mudraider] #1078787 08/13/15 05:24 AM
Joined: Feb 2005
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rxinhed Offline
Trail Leader
*****
Jason (87Monty) has been working on a hybrid transmission conversion to ditch the KM-145 and it's observed problems. Read through this: Mixtubishi Trans

Re: gen 1:: rebuild my 5 speed tranny or covert to 4cyl auto for same ? [Re: rxinhed] #1078788 08/13/15 06:02 AM
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Posts: 6,211
JohnnyBfromPeoria Offline
Trail Leader
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I have had bad experiences with the KM-145 manual. I prefer the KM-148 auto myself. And my daily driver is a 6-speed manual Camaro, so I do like to shift...

John B.


'87 Raider 2.6 Turbo Auto, Under Construction
'95 Montero SR, 35x12.5/15 BFG M/T KM-2's, Rock sliders, Qtr panel chop, gas tank lift, 2" BL, Aisins, 5.29s
'95 Pajero Mini
'98 Montero Winter Ed.
'04 Cadillac XLR
'03 Kawasaki ZRX1200R
'60 Ford Falcon 4Dr
Re: gen 1:: rebuild my 5 speed tranny or covert to 4cyl auto for same ? [Re: TresMon] #1078789 08/13/15 04:51 PM
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Bernoulli Offline
Rock Warrior
I've had 7 MMC 4X4s - all manual. I've had two or three transmission rebuilds - primarily #2 synchro. I've never driven a MMC auto, but I much prefer to decide my gear and RPM rather than have an automatic transmission do it.


89 3L V6 5spd SWB, Aisin Manual Hubs, 2 (suspension) seater Raider in Wheeler, OR
Re: gen 1:: rebuild my 5 speed tranny or covert to 4cyl auto for same ? [Re: rxinhed] #1078790 08/16/15 01:31 AM
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TresMon Offline OP
Mudrunner
Thanks again everyone for the input!
Ended up up I bought the whole monty from the junkyard for $250! Gauges are gone as are the wheels/tires but everything else is there including auto tranny. I won't be able to haul it away until October. So gonna go ahead and build the KM 145 with tuff pan, then have it as a backup tranny when I take possession of the junk yard monty.

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Jason: Read through this: Mixtubishi Trans


Will do. Big thanks.


--Tres
(John 14:6)

Black 87' Raider
2.6L/Webber 88
5 Speed
Welded front,tight LSD in the rear
Removed bump stops
4'x6' roof rack
10k. Lb. winch on receiver hitch/custom bumper
100 amp alt
CB radio/AC inverter
S.Winch hubs
Enormous RV battery







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