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Re: Help - 1990 Gen 1 not starting, stranded [Re: huggie] #1079408 10/29/15 07:08 PM
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cheesegrater Offline
Wheeler
Turn your headlights on and try to start. if lights stay bright, no juice is going to starter (an open circuit). if lights dim, bad starter. if lights go out, bad battery.

Re: Help - 1990 Gen 1 not starting, stranded [Re: huggie] #1079411 10/30/15 06:35 AM
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huggie Offline OP
Need a Spot
Yup, starter is toast. I love this dang ugly forum. smile

Re: Help - 1990 Gen 1 not starting, stranded [Re: huggie] #1079457 11/09/15 07:51 PM
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fasteddy Offline
Web Wheeler
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I personally feel able to start the truck safely without the "aid" of an inhibitor switch. You do put a foot on the brake while cranking, right?


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Re: Help - 1990 Gen 1 not starting, stranded [Re: huggie] #1079569 11/12/15 07:05 AM
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Leopard14 Offline
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I realize you have probably done this. But, I had similar problems and was getting ready to tear apart the starter and soleniod, after having cleaned the inhibitor switch and changed out the ignition switch cable. It ended up being the connectors attached to the positive terminal. A little sanding of both the terminal(there was rust on the metal) and of the wire connector and it turns on every time.

Re: Help - 1990 Gen 1 not starting, stranded [Re: Leopard14] #1079570 11/12/15 07:31 PM
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fasteddy Offline
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starter solenoid most likely. The solenoid is clicking when you engage start. The copper disc on the forward end of the solenoid is not making contact across the two big terminals to which batt and starter are connected. Probable cause is accumulated arc scars. Sometimes you can whack the starter solenoid with a hammer while start is engaged at key, and you'll get a connect. You can also repeatedly hit start and the repeated hammering of the solenoid core will do the same. You can also pull the starter and remove solenoid and pull the core and sand off the copper disc.

Most starter "failures" are just like this, and most "rebuilt" starters are rebuilt just this way, or with only a new solenoid.

Starter diagnosis 101:
Tests are easiest out of the truck, but you can do them all in situ, just a good chance of arcing/welding stuff.

There are 3 terminals on the starter. One (S) is a small spade that carries ign power to the starter in start position. One (B) is a large copper lug with the heavy batt wire attached. The third (M) is an identical copper lug with a wire/strap connected to the motor windings.

Using jumper cables, connect batt neg to starter frame. connect othercable to batt pos, and touch to terminal M. Good motor will run without gear extending. Now touch batt+ wire to terminal S. Solenoid will click, gear will extend, motor will not run. Now connect batt+ cable to terminal B. This is the normal state of the installed starter. Using a jumper wire, connect B to S. Solenoid should extend, then motor should run IN THAT ORDER. If the motor does not run, it's the solenoid copper disc, or crud in the solenoid is blocking the full motion of the core.


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