I'm planning on meeting up with Ya'll somewhere, when I figure out your schedule.

The campground in the woods below Pine Mtn Road is called La Panza. A table and fire ring for each site, a vault as I recall.
The Hi Mtn campground is in the oak woods up on the side of the Mtn. , right above the Pozo Saloon. Garcia road is like a mile from the campgrond.

<img src="/forums/images/graemlins/scared.gif" alt="" />The Steps ( should be call the steeeeps)--- I told by locals that you have to wench yourself down. The nature and spacing of the steps "will" cause an unstopable end over end. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/scared.gif" alt="" />