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Smog issues - no vacuum at egr - 89 3.0 #1032740 08/04/11 07:22 PM
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perucho Offline OP
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I took the 89 LWB to have it smogged and they failed it because there was no vacuum signal at the EGR and the degree timing marker above the crankshaft pulley was bent. I checked the vacuum nipple for the EGR at the throttle body and there is no vacuum at any rpms. Sprayed it with carb cleaner but that didn't do anything. The EGR is good though, and holds vacuum. Any ideas?
Also, where can I find a degree marker for the timing? I'm talking about the marker right above the crankshaft pulley that has the BTDC, 0, and ATDC marks. Looks like it's plastic but couldn't see it very well last night.
Even with the timing off, and the EGR not functional, the emissions were good. I thought the reason for the smog check was to make sure the emissions were below a certain level. CA has a funny way to take your money.


Oscar
Re: Smog issues - no vacuum at egr - 89 3.0 [Re: perucho] #1032741 08/05/11 01:13 AM
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I took the 89 LWB to have it smogged and they failed it because there was no vacuum signal at the EGR and the degree timing marker above the crankshaft pulley was bent. I checked the vacuum nipple for the EGR at the throttle body and there is no vacuum at any rpms. Sprayed it with carb cleaner but that didn't do anything. The EGR is good though, and holds vacuum. Any ideas?


Check the vacuum diagram to make sure the hose is connected to the correct nipple -- I screwed up once in the placement and the ECU ended up throwing a code...

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Also, where can I find a degree marker for the timing? I'm talking about the marker right above the crankshaft pulley that has the BTDC, 0, and ATDC marks. Looks like it's plastic but couldn't see it very well last night.


The timing marker is part of a larger plastic cover that is available from the dealer and if I recall correctly is not too costly...

Eric W.


'89 Dodge Raider -- 3.0L V6, MT, SWB
Re: Smog issues - no vacuum at egr - 89 3.0 [Re: perucho] #1032742 08/05/11 01:15 AM
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rxinhed Offline
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The vacuum source is likely a clogged thermo-switch.

The timing cover is replaceable, look for a good wrecking yard piece.

Russell

Re: Smog issues - no vacuum at egr - 89 3.0 [Re: rxinhed] #1032743 08/05/11 04:11 AM
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perucho Offline OP
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Thanks for the replies. I touched the thermo switch and both nipples were broken. PO had them in place with silicone.
Sounds like it's time to take a trip to PnP to get that plastic cover.


Oscar
Re: Smog issues - no vacuum at egr - 89 3.0 [Re: perucho] #1032744 08/05/11 07:47 PM
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if it still fails or better yet before you try again ,,,spray T.B. cleaner going both ways theu the 2 orifice holes either side of where the butterfly closes,,,and back thru the nipple on the T.B. The '89 has this invisable brass orifice internal to the casting of the TB.( it's under one of those pressed in BB things ontop the TB. this thing clogs with the smallest fleck of dirt.
(The later TBs had a plastic dampen type orfice in the vacum line that made TB cleaning alot easier and sucessful.


dave h.
'89 Raider V6 5spd;Aisin Hubs;; Gen2 LS: frt. brakes, rear coils;U.C.arms;R.trailing arms;idler arm; rear LSD axle w.disc brakes ;2 battery system for Dog's fan; relocated ECU; custom bumpers;J.Baker receiver;Conferr roofrack; t-bar crank.
Re: Smog issues - no vacuum at egr - 89 3.0 [Re: KrzyDav] #1032745 08/06/11 06:12 AM
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perucho Offline OP
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I will try that too. Thanks!


Oscar
Re: Smog issues - no vacuum at egr - 89 3.0 [Re: perucho] #1032746 08/07/11 01:02 AM
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perucho Offline OP
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Used compressed air to clear up all the vacuum lines and the nipples at the throttle body, replaced the thermo switch and now I get vacuum at the EGR. Thanks for the help!
I also got a lower timing belt cover at the junk yard but after taking it off I'm not so sure I want to do it all over again!


Oscar
Re: Smog issues - no vacuum at egr - 89 3.0 [Re: perucho] #1103978 11/11/17 04:17 PM
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mfarmer10 Offline
Getting the Wheeling Fever
I'm having the same issue, no vacuum at EGR. Where is the thermo switch?

Re: Smog issues - no vacuum at egr - 89 3.0 [Re: perucho] #1103979 11/12/17 02:53 AM
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rxinhed Offline
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Download the appropriate factory service manual at mitsubishilinks.com

The answers to location of parts is inside the appropriate section.


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