VX is done after 2001 the ceramic molds are just about finished already...<P>-mike<P>------------------<BR>'97 Rodeo -> '00 Trooper LS<BR>ECB Nudge Bar, Hella 4000s Eurobeam w/City Light, Hidden Hitch, Hella Triple Trumpet Horns, OME Rear Springs, Rancho 9000 Shocks, Tinted Front Windows<BR>'88 Subaru XT6<BR>'88 Mazda MX6<BR>http://isuzu-suvs.com

Well, before everyone jumps ship, remember that these are rumors. The Trooper was due for a change in about 2000, so 2003 isn't too far off. <P>It is news to me about the Amigo/Rodeo - doesn't make sense to me since they have a plant here for those.<P>We shall see...<P>-Tad

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by J Paget:<BR><B>One thing that no one here commented on from the article about the Isuzu downsizing was the line that said that Isuzu was going from 7 platforms to 3. Since we know the trucks are profitable, that doesn't leave a lot of platforms for other vehicles.</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>The last article I saw dealt with the Trooper and down sizing in Japan, not here in the States.<P>d

The Rodeo switch I'd guess wouldn't be til 2004 or 2005MY. Funny thing is they are supposed to be continuing to produce OUR Troopers for the rest of the world, just not the US after 2002 <P>-mike<P>------------------<BR>'97 Rodeo -> '00 Trooper LS<BR>ECB Nudge Bar, Hella 4000s Eurobeam w/City Light, Hidden Hitch, Hella Triple Trumpet Horns, OME Rear Springs, Rancho 9000 Shocks, Tinted Front Windows<BR>'88 Subaru XT6<BR>'88 Mazda MX6<BR>http://isuzu-suvs.com

Originally posted by paisan:<BR>But the new trooper is going to be a Yukon chassied vehicle...<P><BR>It had better be, those "light-truck" diesel motors are fairly heavy units. I don't know the stats for the Duramax, but I do know that the 5.9L Cummins in the Dodge Rams weighs around 900 pounds dry.<P>Kevin

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by paisan:<BR><B>The new Trooper may be built at SIA, also the next gen Rodeo and Rodeo Sport will be Envoy clones...<BR>sorry for the bad news...<BR>-mike</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P> I figured the Rodeo/RS to be from the new Trailblazer, since it's gonna have a big engine AND the 2 door version will easily make an "Amigo"/RS.<BR> Walt<P>

What I still can't understand is why it's such a bad thing that the Isuzu's may take on GM chassis's... That means, at the very least, V-8 power for troopers and 270hp straight six's for rodeo's and amigo's, ahem, RS's. Not to mention there won't be any trouble finding aftermarket accessories anymore. But then again, I do kinda like having to rack my brain for ideas every time I think of another modification <P>My .02<BR>Rusty

Why you ask is it a bad thing...<P>Well let's see...<P>A-Arm Recall<BR>Fit & Finish on American Cars generally SUCKs<P>Other than that, yeah the aftermarket will be nice to have.<P>-mike<P>------------------<BR>'97 Rodeo -> '00 Trooper LS<BR>ECB Nudge Bar, Hella 4000s Eurobeam w/City Light, Hidden Hitch, Hella Triple Trumpet Horns, OME Rear Springs, Rancho 9000 Shocks, Tinted Front Windows<BR>'88 Subaru XT6<BR>'88 Mazda MX6<BR>http://isuzu-suvs.com

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by paisan:<BR><B>Why you ask is it a bad thing...<P>Well let's see...<P>A-Arm Recall<BR>Fit & Finish on American Cars generally SUCKs<P>Other than that, yeah the aftermarket will be nice to have.<P>-mike<P></B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P><BR>If I "recall" correctly, I've already had 7 recalls on my amigo... I don't personally think that anything is to be told by the amount of recalls; on the contrary, I think that it's a good thing to have recalls. No vehicle will ever be perfect and it's good to know that some companies don't let things slide, such as an intake manifold gasket not being recalled... "fit and finish?" Hmm, I guess that means mine sucks too since the "fit and finish" was done in Indiana.<P>My .02<BR>Rusty<BR><p>[This message has been edited by Silent Bob (edited 14 June 2001).]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Silent Bob:<BR><B>What I still can't understand is why it's such a bad thing that the Isuzu's may take on GM chassis's... That means, at the very least, V-8 power for troopers and 270hp straight six's for rodeo's and amigo's, ahem, RS's. Not to mention there won't be any trouble finding aftermarket accessories anymore. But then again, I do kinda like having to rack my brain for ideas every time I think of another modification <P>My .02<BR>Rusty</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P><BR>I think it's a bad thing because there's a real danger Isuzu will be removed from the NA market altogether. Isuzu cars disppeared a few years ago, the pickup is gone (now just an S-10 with an Isuzu badge stuck on it). If the Trooper becomes a rebadged full size and the Rodeo a re-badged Envoy, how long before there's nothing available actually made by Isuzu.<P>I have nothing againest GM, my second car is a Buick, but I can't anything good about reduced choices.<P>Don't believe me? Go down to Mazda dealer and try to buy a truck that's actually built by Mazda. They are all rebadged Fords.<P>IMHO<P>Paul<P>