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Towing with a Rodeo. #130221 03/20/03 08:35 PM
Anonymous
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I've got a 2001 Rodeo with the 3.2L V6 and was wondering what people having the same vehicle are Towing. I wanted to pull a small travel trailer and was wondering about others experiences.

Re: Towing with a Rodeo. #130222 03/20/03 08:53 PM
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RobG Offline
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<img src="http://www.isuzu4x.com/albums/album04/towing.jpg" alt=" - " />

It does alright. i've towed a few trailers up around the 5k limit, and it handled the task. I have electric trailer brakes, which are highly recommended. It is a lot of work on my clutch at that weight, i wouldn't recommend those kind of loads for long distance hauls however.

-Rob


Robert Gorrell
1995.5 Isuzu Rodeo - SAS'd and SOA'd, sitting on 38x13 TSLs, spooled D60 front, 14bff rear locked by detriot, high steer w/ hydro, dual Isuzu tcases.
Re: Towing with a Rodeo. #130223 03/20/03 09:01 PM
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AIR AMIGO Offline
Body Damage is Cool
Wish I had a picture of it. Joe D. towed "AirAmigo!"..all 4500lbs of it, from Buena Vista, CO to Mountain Home, ID. We crossed two passes in the Rockies, and Soldier Summit in Utah. He has a 1st gen Isuzu Rodeo, with the 3.2 and the auto tranny.

We did end up using the Tera Low gears to maintain 10mph at night, when we were cresting the 2 passes in Colorado. The rest of the time we were able to do almost the speed limit.

Nice guy, drove all the way from Mountain Home, ID with DOR welder Vic, to meet Curtis J and I at Colorado Zu Zoo last year. Curtis towed me from Texas to Buena Vista, Co.

Joe's still using the same tranny, that he did back then. Still going strong.


Keith
"AIR AMIGO!" aka 1994 Isuzu Amigo SAS with Toyota axles, 5.29's, dual ARB's, IROK's, WARN HS9500 winch, and etc.
Pacific NW Isuzu Off-Roaders
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Re: Towing with a Rodeo. #130224 03/20/03 10:28 PM
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PLowe Offline
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I have a 94 Rodeo that I used for towing. I towed my 26 feet travel trailer around California and Oregon. On one occasion I towed my trailer and 4 people to Yosemite and we didn't stay in the valley. If you plan to tow please install the electric trailer brake to your system. If you have automatic transmission I suggest adding oil cooler and transmission cooler to your system especially if you expect to do any towing in hot weather and steep hills. Keeping the tempt down is a big plus in towing with an automatic. This is cheap insurance to increase safety and lessen problem caused by over heating oil and transmission fluids.


94 Rodeo 3' Calimin Suspenion lift
32X11.5/15 Dunlop Mud Rovers tires, 8.5' wheels
Re: Towing with a Rodeo. #130225 03/21/03 01:16 AM
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Curtis Johnson Offline
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I used to have pull a 1600 lb pop up tent trailer (Jayco1207) and a motorcycle trailer with Cruiser Bike on it. I used to pull them both at the at the same time. Having gone all over the southern US with this set up and a few trips to Colorado and New Mexico didn't give me a lot of trouble getting around. It took a lot of paitence to pull the long climbs and electric brakes on the camper and surge brakes on the MC trailer for the downhills made a big difference.
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CJ


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Re: Towing with a Rodeo. #130226 03/21/03 10:08 AM
Anonymous
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I think you can pretty much tow anything. I had to pick up my 1974 dodge charger from florida and tow it to Virginia. I rented a Uhaul tow dolly and away I went. Of course i told them i was only towing a Dodge Dart!! anyway it worked well even at 70 miles an hour. I have a 3inch cal-mini lift and the rear did not sag a bit. handled awesome!!!!!

Re: Towing with a Rodeo. #130227 03/21/03 05:54 PM
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mlclark Offline
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This thread is going to be moved to Talk.

But, I have some comments here. First of all, the towing activities of PLowe and Motors4Fun and JoeD were most likely beyond the ratings of the vehicle and at the least, dangerous. If you think I am admonishing you, I am. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> You decided to put yourself, your passengers and other drivers in danger.

PLowe, a 26ft trailer, 4 passengers and gear are WAY beyond any rated capacity for your vehicle. Both the GVR and the GVCR. The former is the max of how much the rig should ever weigh and I am also pretty sure you were over on both front and rear axle ratings. By adding the trailer, you most likely grossly bypassed the combined weight rating for your rig. I know that some people consider going over the ratings by x% because it is assumed engineers build in a certain amount of margin of error, what you described is pretty much beyond that margin also.

I know, it worked, but it was dangerous. You had almost no chance of successfully executing any serious panic braking or evasive maneuver. In the end, it is always your choice but please consider the consequences and the your responsibility. I am pretty sure if you were found at fault in an accident, loaded as you were, your Insurance company would have seen you as negligent and not even considered covering you.

Motors4Fun, 70mph with a short wheelbase vehicle, the rodeo, and a tow dolly with a heavy vehicle on it is plain stupid. Again, you did it and you survived, but you were also on the edge of safety. That load had the possibility to shove around the rear end of your rig and you could have swapped ends very very fast. As the weight of the towed object approaches the weight of the two vehicle, things get hairy. Just ask Dallas and Steve what happens when towing a heavy Amigo, on a dolly with a short wheelbase rig. In addition to that, you also did not have any braking assistance from the towed vehicle AND you lied to Uhaul. Again, if you were found to be the cause of an accident, you would most likely have been found negligent and your insurance company and Uhaul would have laughed at you.

As for negligence, sounds like it is a simple thing that should not even be considered, right? Well, anyone needs to ask themselves if they are willing to risk their rig, their financial security or even their life (or the life of others) to tow something.

Now, we are not all perfect. Last week I was forced to make a tow that broke almost all of the rules above. I had a horse colic that needed to get to the vet hospital. My tow rig(F350) was in the shop and I had some other people come down with their Toyota T100. By the time we rolled out of the barn, we had to hook up a different trailer (the horse would not get in the straight load and I don't blame her). While trailer #2 was heavy, it was still within the limits of the rig, even with the horse loaded. The problem was that the truck wiring was suspect, at the least. I had one tail light and the opposite brake light that worked. And, of course, no brakes on the trailer. Fortunately, I had a chase vehicle behind me to provide some safety in the vision department.

I took it slow (50mph max, on the flats, 45mph or less on the hills) and anticipated things waaaaaaay in advance. We made it. The Toyota was marginal at best. The back end is soft to start with and the lack of brakes made it a white knuckle experience. But, I did it because I HAD to. The life of the horse was in danger and we only had 10 mi to go. Ironically, the lights and brakes worked after we hit a bump towards the end of the trip. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> I did offer to help them wire/rewire their truck, properly.

For those out there who are wondering what their rig can tow. Please research it first before making the decision. At the least, an informed decision to tow overweight is at least an informed decision. The sticker on the door frame will outline the various weight ratings for the vehicle. Also remember that modifications to the suspension should be considered as reducing those numbers and there is no way to safely increase the ratings. It is a combination of frame strength, axle strength, brake capacity and the engine/tranny. To really know what you have, you should weigh your rig and the trailer and do the math. Include things like passengers and gear.

Brakes on any trailer is highly suggested. Not only does it save the vehicles brakes, it also provides some help if it starts to sway. Electric brakes are the best, (IMHO), but hydraulics work too. There are also things like sway control and weight distributing hitches that will help with the control side of things and airbags and helper springs can help keep the tow rig level. All of those add to tow well a rig will tow something. Trust me, it is much nicer to be in a rig that is meant to tow, than one that is not. It is just a much more relaxing experience.

There are several resources on the Internet for towing. There is a towing board at www.thedieselstop.com that is pretty good and there are also several RV sites out there. At the very least, just read.

Good Luck,
Michael (Headed out to hook up my trailer right now <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> )

Re: Towing with a Rodeo. #130228 03/22/03 06:39 AM
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Iluvmud Offline
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This is kinda going in a different direction but how does the Rodeo do being towed behind moter home? Do you have to disconect the drive shafts or anything?


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Re: Towing with a Rodeo. #130229 03/22/03 06:56 AM
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Jeff Mason Offline
Body Damage is Cool
Well, to bring this back on topic regarding pulling a small travel trailer, it would be helpful to know exactly how 'small' it is. Are we talking 2,000 pounds, 3,000 pounds?

I have a 1999 Amigo that I tow my Dutchmen Pop-up camper with on a regular basis, including our trips over the mountains to Moabzu. The pop-up weighs about 1500 pounds empty, and around 1800 or so loaded with gear. I've had no problems towing it so far, but then again, the trailer has very good manners - never sways, never bucks, etc. It tracks really well, which is a lot more than I can say for some of the trailers out there! Mountain passes do slow me down a little, but second gear and a little patience at 40 - 45 MPH works well.

Now, don't tell Michael this, but I don't have trailer brakes. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" /> Stopping distances are increased a bit, and I know that maneuverability is compromised as well (as it always is when you tow just about anything). I compensate for this by allowing a lot of extra room in front of me, and anticipating what others around me may be doing. I'd rather have brakes, but I am NOT uncomfortable without them. Anything bigger, 2000 pounds+, and I'd have brakes on it.

Hope this helps!


Jeff Mason

Whatever makes you upset in someone else...also exists in you
Re: Towing with a Rodeo. #130230 03/21/03 07:15 PM
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4Play Offline
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Hi, you mentioned a small travel trailer. Whats the weight (wet)? I work in construction and before I got my SuperDuty I did quite a bit of towing. The Rodeo does really well. Before I replaced my springs and shocks there was some uncomfortable sag in the rear.

I think the heaviest I got was just shy of 3k lbs. Which was a couple of scoups of sand and less than a dosen bags of plastic cement. I frequently towed much lighter loads though, as frequent as 3-4 times a month. Trailer brakes is a good idea if you are traveling many miles or have a heavy load.

I just bought a F250 about three months ago, capable of towing something like 12.5 and GWCR of 20k <img border="0" alt="[Satan]" title="" src="graemlins/satan.gif" /> Go figure in the past three months I haven't had a DAMN thing to tow!

Small or big, the Rodeo will pull it. It will pull so well that you may get the "feeling" its safe to tow more or go faster... just watch out, an out of control trailer is worse feeling than crawling up a hill and having your front end lift off the ground <img border="0" alt="[Barf]" title="" src="graemlins/barf.gif" /> I know, I was towing when a little civic didn't realize I had a trailer back there and clipped the end.

Safe towing,
Ashby


'00 Rodeo LSE 4WD, 3.2, Black, LSD, OME 919s w/ 2in Spacers, Superwinch Hubs, RS9KXLs, Indy4x steel braided brake lines, LT 265-75-16 MT/Rs, ShrockBars, DOR HD rear Lat. Bar, MagnaFlow.
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