Engine info??

Gen III in Australia is short for LS1 GM Generation III.

The the standard 250kw/475nm LS 1 GM gen 3 is a crate engine. Camaro. Holden do things to it...like

- a FACTORY 330kw/530nm and with a twin turbo / intercooler

- an under the bonnet blower option making them 440kw and 770nm bolt on.

A friend just traded in his work Ute, a 255kw version in a 1600kg Ute, and was a 5 sec 0-100kph and 14 flat 1/4 mile car off the showroom floor.

His new ute (arriving on his doorstep in 6 weeks) should be 270kw gen 3...it'll come with the
T56 6 speed manual, 80kph 1st/140kph second/180kph 3rd/220kph 4th/275kph 5th and 245 is all it will hold in .5 to 1 , 6th gear.

If you want more info on the engine...think
C-a-m-a-r-o.

Mind, if you use the engine, be sure to open up a trading account at your local tire dealer. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" />

--Bighorn--

(Oh, and I forgot. There is an AWD version of the Ute coming in January/February. Then, all we'll need is an adaptor to split the transfer. LS1 and T56 6-speed gearbox.)

<small>[ October 05, 2002, 09:23 AM: Message edited by: Mr. Bighorn ]</small>

<strong>Engine info??</strong>

To follow up on Mr. Bighorn's comments, here's some more useless trivia (well... useless to we poor souls trapped in the land of DOT anyway). Holden also used the Gen III V8 / Tremec T56 combo (tuned to around the same, if not more, power as in our Z28-SS) in another road burner, the Commodore HSV, a mid-size four-door referred to by some of the overseas press as a "poor man's M5". Why do I care, you may be asking yourself? The Commodore (HSV or otherwise) differs from the Cadillac Catera in interior design and body panels only, they share the same chassis.

That kind of swap would be worth it just to see the facial expressions when you start it up. Those paying attention will not hear the muted hum of a modern V6, but the bellowing rumble of an LS1 clearing its throat. <img border="0" alt="[Satan]" title="" src="graemlins/satan.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[Satan]" title="" src="graemlins/satan.gif" />
The Caddy that zigs indeed. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" />

Best regards,
Kevin V

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans">Originally posted by Kevin V:
<strong><strong>Engine info??</strong>

To follow up on Mr. Bighorn's comments, here's some more useless trivia (well... useless to we poor souls trapped in the land of DOT anyway). Holden also used the Gen III V8 / Tremec T56 combo (tuned to around the same, if not more, power as in our Z28-SS) in another road burner, the Commodore HSV, a mid-size four-door referred to by some of the overseas press as a "poor man's M5". Why do I care, you may be asking yourself? The Commodore (HSV or otherwise) differs from the Cadillac Catera in interior design and body panels only, they share the same chassis.
</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans">This is the car that is coming to the US as the new Pontiac GTO

All experienced hands on deck, please.

Dropping a V8 in like this, be it the LS1...or something else. Anything over 200kW of power. Are the diffs, CV's and axle shafts up to the task?

1. In a 89-91 Trooper?
2. In a 92-98 Trooper?

Those that have done it...?

Engine swaps seem the easiest part. It's all the supplementary stuff (I'm thinking) down the line.

--Bighorn--

damn a trooper/blazer ...I LIKE <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="images/icons/shocked.gif" />

sweet....gotta love anything factory w/ a cage <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" />

Matt

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans">Originally posted by Mitsuzu:
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans">Originally posted by Kevin V:
<strong><strong>Engine info??</strong>

To follow up on Mr. Bighorn's comments, here's some more useless trivia (well... useless to we poor souls trapped in the land of DOT anyway). Holden also used the Gen III V8 / Tremec T56 combo (tuned to around the same, if not more, power as in our Z28-SS) in another road burner, the Commodore HSV, a mid-size four-door referred to by some of the overseas press as a "poor man's M5". Why do I care, you may be asking yourself? The Commodore (HSV or otherwise) differs from the Cadillac Catera in interior design and body panels only, they share the same chassis.
</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans">This is the car that is coming to the US as the new Pontiac GTO</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans">The (to be) Pontiac GTO is the Holden Monaro.

--Bighorn--

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans">Originally posted by Mr. Bighorn:
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans">Originally posted by Mitsuzu:
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans">Originally posted by Kevin V:
<strong><strong>Engine info??</strong>

To follow up on Mr. Bighorn's comments, here's some more useless trivia (well... useless to we poor souls trapped in the land of DOT anyway). Holden also used the Gen III V8 / Tremec T56 combo (tuned to around the same, if not more, power as in our Z28-SS) in another road burner, the Commodore HSV, a mid-size four-door referred to by some of the overseas press as a "poor man's M5". Why do I care, you may be asking yourself? The Commodore (HSV or otherwise) differs from the Cadillac Catera in interior design and body panels only, they share the same chassis.
</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans">This is the car that is coming to the US as the new Pontiac GTO</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans">The (to be) Pontiac GTO is the Holden Monaro.

--Bighorn--</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans">My bad <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans">Originally posted by Mr. Bighorn:
<strong>All experienced hands on deck, please.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans">Got me on that one. Never dropped a V8 into a Trooper of any vintage. In fact, never swapped any engine into anything... ever.

Actually, the swap I was talking about was the GenIII/T-56 into a Catera using parts from the Commodore HSV. And yes, I'm aware it would not likely be a bolt-in project. But with commonality of parts dictated as they are by economies of scale, plus the fact that the factory has already proven the motor/tranny will physically fit, I'd bet it could be done. But, since you brought it up and I was thinking about it anyway, let's talk about dropping an LS1 into my Trooper('01, TOD). Why mine? Mostly 'cause I already own it and it's my daydream.

1. I'm not particularly worried about the rear axle; the ring and pinion is almost Dana 60 sized, the axle shafts have a good reputation, I would be changing to an ARB diff, and I don't plan on running anything larger than 33's in any case.

2. I notice the Jack8 has a 50mm body lift. I'm guessing that made it easier to fit the engine farther back in the chassis (more room for engine accessories) while decreasing the amount of suspension lift necessary to fit those tires (wouldn't want any more stress on those CV's that are still there than necessary). I'd rather not have a body lift, but I'd bet that if the Holden guys did it, it was probably necessary and I'd probably have to do it too.

3. There's no way I'm strapping a 4L30-E to the back of that motor (I'd like more than 5k miles between tranny replacement). So, I'd likely use a 4L60-E (or 4L60-E HD from a Hummer H2 if I can find one) since I already know it will bolt up and handle the torque.

4. Most any T-case I can think of (please correct me if I'm wrong) that mates to the above tranny will have its front output on the left side (I'm partial to the NVG242HD, from the Hummer H1), which is of course the opposite of the stock front diff. However, because I wish to retain the option to shift into four wheel drive, I'll need a way to get the power from the t-case to the wheels. So now I need a new front axle.

5. I am unwilling to risk life and limb by designing my own IFS as I am homogeneously unqualified to engineer such a contraption. Further, I tend to believe solid axles offer more strength and dependability than their IFS counterparts, at least in slow to medium speed work. Hey, dozens of ARCA competitors can't be wrong, so solid axle it is!

6. But which one? I think the Dana 40. Parts are plentiful, they can be built plenty strong for my uses (see tire size above), and it offers a nice balance (Feng Shui, if you will) of strength/size/wieght when compared to the rear Isuzu Corp 12-bolt.

7. For mounting, I would likely use trailing links (and associated mounts) from an 80 series LC, with custom mounts on the axles. They control the rotational torque along the axis of the axles with two links, rather than four. I'd need a panhard bar, and would like to try cribbing parts for this from one of these CJ-coil-conversion kits if at all possible. Haven't exactly figured this last part out yet, nor the issue of steering, but hey, sounds like I'm off to a good start, huh?

Anyhoo, since we're just bench racing anyway, no harm in dreaming.

Kevin V

i think that TJM makes a similar bumper(does NOT have the driving light cutouts though)see it here: http://www.tjmproducts.com.au/products/bull_bars.html

look under T17
and its available here: http://www.4by4connection.com/isuzu.html

sorry guys,when i double checked,its for rodeo/amigo only,no trooper app listed,sorry again,but i think DOR makes a similar bumper for troopers,anybody?

This car was on the Holden stand this weekend at the 4X4 show here in Melbourne, Australia.

I had a bit of a look over it, but there wasn't too much time as I was working at the show.

Bad news is that Holden are only ever going to make one of these - it is a promotional vehicle only.

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