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 Re: Check out this new 4x4
#132650
12/05/02 10:57 AM
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Joined: Dec 2001
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans">Originally posted by strawmyers: <strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans">Originally posted by Mitsuzu: <strong>Sean..did you miss this part? under $20K </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans">Yes, after seeing the words "turbodiesel" and "335 ft-lb of torque", I went into a fit of convulsive drooling and skipped directly to the picture. :eek</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans"> Umm... Sorry gang... but that's 335 NANOMETERS of torque, NOT ft/lbs.Hey, don't get me wrong though... SMILEY LIKEY! --- And there's even a dealership within an hour-and-a-half of me! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="images/icons/shocked.gif" /> Man-o-manà just as soon as one these Bubbas hits the showroom floor, can you say, 'ROAD TRIP!!!'????? --- How is it that IÆm just now hearing about this thing? (Read as, æThanks a cool-million for the heads-up!Æ <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" /> ) Mmmmmmmm...
Sah-lid-axx-ullllllz...
Turrr-boww-deee-zullllll...
Warrr-ennnnn-teeeeeeeeeeeeee...
Aglaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah...
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Cheers! Smiley <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />
Six Isuzus, so far... still have three of them.
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 Re: Check out this new 4x4
#132651
12/05/02 11:01 AM
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Joined: Mar 2000
Posts: 1,419
Body Damage is Cool
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans">Originally posted by Mitsuzu:
<strong>Coming soon (hopefully) to America, 2.8L turbodiesel..335 lb' of torque!!!
</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans">Actually Joe, it's 261 lbs of torque, that "335" is the NM rating. To convert that into "American" divide 335 NM by 1.356.
Still though, 261 lbs is nothing to snear at!
Travis
"I can make it up the hill in 2wd, Honest! I'll just go FASTER!"
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Re: Check out this new 4x4
#132652
12/05/02 11:05 AM
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Joined: Mar 2000
Posts: 1,419
Body Damage is Cool
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Okay, one last post, it has rear leaf springs and rear drums. That would account for part of the cost difference between this and a 110.
Travis
"I can make it up the hill in 2wd, Honest! I'll just go FASTER!"
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 Re: Check out this new 4x4
#132653
12/05/02 02:15 PM
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Anonymous
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans">Originally posted by SunValleyAmigo: <strong>Still though, new 110's (even in the UK) go for a whole lot more the 20k, I wonder what this Brazilian version has (or better said, NOT have) to get the cost under 20k? Travis</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans">Well, no labor union and a crappy economy gets the labor cost down, and I'm sure the exchange rate is favorable. That helps the price. It's also completely possible that at 20g's it doesn't pass emissions or saftey regulations - which is why (to my recolection) they never started selling the ARO with the Toyota V6 or Ford V6 (they switched the sourcing somewhere along the way) in the US. I believe alot of what was missing was creature comforts. Vynal seats ect. One of my brother's friends (nothing like a direct source) aparently saw one in Florida and said the build quality was questionable, rattly doors and what not. For some history, check: http://www.4x44u.com/pub/k2/am4x44u/truck_tech/4x_trucks/aro24.htmMaybe it'll happen this time, but then again, maybe isuzu will import a diesel trooper with a front solid axle. I'll hope, but I wouldn't hold my breath. Heath
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 Re: Check out this new 4x4
#132654
12/05/02 02:54 PM
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Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 201
Wheeler
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Really would like to see a 4X4 along this line in the US. Like was mentioned above alot of the cost is in all the "standard" features that are infesting vehicles these days. The cost to build a good "BASIC" 4X4 really wouldn't be that high. Start adding power/heated seats, power windows,power door lock, A/C, Power mirrows, rear window defog/wipers, ABS, SRS, GPS, keyless entry, TOD/shift-on-the-fly,multi-disc CD, backup sensors, carpet, sound proofing, 8 different colors, 3 different interiors, tilt steering wheel, cruise control, aux power points, intermittant wipers, 15 cup holders, 4 wheel disc brakes. 10 interior lights, power sun roof, remote hood release. There goes the price.
Bob
"You can't expect to wield supreme executive power just 'cause some watery tart threw a sword at you."
02 Trooper S, TOD, Aisin Hubs, FJORD Blue, ARB 3444070 Winch Bar. Dueler A/T REVO LT265/75R16
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Re: Check out this new 4x4
#132655
12/05/02 02:55 PM
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Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 2,281
Body Damage is Cool
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Gee Guys, If we could find a decient source of Turbo Diesel Engines (ISUZU ARE YOU LISTNING?) for our 1st Gen Troopers, They would look just like that. Naw! They're not hearing us. I'd dump all my 1st Gen Trooper projects and buy one as soon as it hits the Dealers Showroom. Seriously, That is exackly the direction I'm headed with my 3 Troopers.(Yea, I bought another one.) A V 6 Auto This time. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> Melissa is getting shiftless on me! CJ I just Called the # listed and talked to the receptionest. I left a message for the Rep named Chris to call me back with the details. Will post as soon as I hear back from him. The site says it will be here the 4th quarter of 2002. So, it looks like they'd better get cracking.Pearland 5719 Broadway Stree Pearland, TX 77581 281-997-5100 San Antonio 7979 IH 35 South San Antonio, TX 78224 210-922-2222 Tyler 527 W. Erwin Tyler, TX 75702 903-595-4531 800-458-5464 McAllen 3201 N. 10th Street McAllen, TX 78502 Van Burkleo <small>[ December 05, 2002, 10:44 AM: Message edited by: Curtis Johnson ]</small>
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Re: Check out this new 4x4
#132656
12/05/02 04:10 PM
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Anonymous
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This is translated by google from a Brazilian page on the crosslander:
The front suspension is independent with transversal arms and helical springs and the back has rigid axle with beams of springs of double period of training. The load capacity is of 565 kg In November will pass to be mounted picape CL-330, with load capacity for 1.300 kg, another one that enters in the fight of the space left for the Bandeirante.
So Solid rear but IFS front. Still nice looking SUV:)
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Re: Check out this new 4x4
#132657
12/05/02 04:28 PM
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Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 2,652
Roll Me Over
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Curtis, Is that your home or a used care lot? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" />
[color:"white"]? 04 Rodeo DI ?[/color] 75k mi, body damage on the 1st weekend I got it.
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Re: Check out this new 4x4
#132658
12/05/02 04:33 PM
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Joined: Apr 2001
Posts: 1,247
OP
Body Damage is Cool
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans">Originally posted by DaveFL: <strong>This is translated by google from a Brazilian page on the crosslander: The front suspension is independent with transversal arms and helical springs and the back has rigid axle with beams of springs of double period of training. The load capacity is of 565 kg In November will pass to be mounted picape CL-330, with load capacity for 1.300 kg, another one that enters in the fight of the space left for the Bandeirante. So Solid rear but IFS front. Still nice looking SUV:)</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans">Bummer <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="images/icons/frown.gif" />
Joe
Maybe for once, someone will call me 'sir' without adding 'You're making a scene'
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Re: Check out this new 4x4
#132659
12/05/02 04:36 PM
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Joined: Apr 2001
Posts: 1,247
OP
Body Damage is Cool
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans">Originally posted by SunValleyAmigo: <strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans">Originally posted by Mitsuzu: <strong>Coming soon (hopefully) to America, 2.8L turbodiesel..335 lb' of torque!!! </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans">Actually Joe, it's 261 lbs of torque, that "335" is the NM rating. To convert that into "American" divide 335 NM by 1.356. Still though, 261 lbs is nothing to snear at! Travis</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans">Killjoy!!!! (Smiley too!!) <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />
Joe
Maybe for once, someone will call me 'sir' without adding 'You're making a scene'
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