</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans">Originally posted by LTC Don:
[QBNow, where I'm heading with this is that, I would think (read: knee-jerk reaction <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" /> ) that one would not even think of introducing a new model/design in such a market if it didn't offer some type of appeal/functionality due to the apparent competition. Note that quality is not necessarily a priority but with an International motor and an Eaton trannie, there might be something there.[/QB]</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans">The apparent competition? Would that be the alcohol burning air cooled beetle that they still sell in Brazil (unless they stopped again in the last 2 years). <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" />

<img src="http://www.newmotorage.com/4x4/s_crosslander_240_p.jpg" alt=" - " />

the guages looks outdated heh

Hey Curtis, you miss one point: Isuzu cannot
just take these parts of the shelf and sell
them to us. If this would happend, they would
need to go thru the huge number of various safety
commisions and standards boards. It is not that
easy. And it is simply impossible with old truck
design. As far as I know, each car/truck in USA
must conform to the multiple goverment standarts.
Plus, each car/truck must conform to multiple
additional not-so-formal standarts - otherwise
Isuzu would be killed by multiple law suits from
customers. I am sorry but it looks like impossible
to return to the market with an old truck.

We are lucky enough becouse we live in USA
and we can keep, at least, our old cars and
trucks. In some parts of the world you would be
FORCED by a goverment to retire your old
truck/car after, say, 3 or 5 years of ownership.
So, do not complain about absence of the 'new old'
trucks - at least we can keep just 'old' ones
(and we can buy them second hand, also).

Best regards,
Oleg

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans">Originally posted by Curtis Johnson:
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans">Originally posted by Eric Upchurch:
<strong>Isuzu Hello!! why don't you make something like that and get back in the 4x4 market!! anyone notice that when they made rugged utility trucks back in the 80s there sales were the highest they have ever been. Its time they go back to the basics just like this company has.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans">Ain't it the truth Eric. I swear that thing looks like a 1st gen Trooper with an updated 2.8 TD powerplant. Now if we could just convince Isuzu to let us have the parts and pieces they already have on the shelf before they leave the U.S.! Couldn't we have the best of everything. Who needs heated cup holders and lighted vanity mirrors on the the sun visors. That crap they could leave off and give us lockers instead.
Looks like somebody is going to make some money off of Isuzus short sightedness. Or is that GM's fault?
CJ</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans">

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans">Originally posted by SJS'94:
<strong>My dealer said he drove it... very rugged and capable</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans">From a dealer that also translates to "crude, unrefined, and trucklike", but hey, that's how Isuzu started out, right?

But if they are only going to import 40 a year, what's the point? I'll never see one...

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans">But if they are only going to import 40 a year, what's the point? I'll never see one...</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans">Could be 10 per yer, per dealer.

Steve

<img src="http://www.newmotorage.com/4x4/s_crosslander_240_p.jpg" alt=" - " />

Anyone notice the tripometer has 4 miles and odometer has 1? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> (I guess they are kilometers but point remains)

Now here's a REAL diesel SUV:

http://www.off-road.com/vw/features/trooper/trooper.html

Anyone ever look into the possibility of importing a Bighorn TD and making it legal?

Or know of an available source of Isuzu TD 2.8's or 3.1's?

It's very sad to say, but I think I'm still a couple of years away from a Moab trip <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="images/icons/frown.gif" /> --- HOWEVER, the thought had already crossed my mind to try and get one of the dealers around here to bring one to Uwharrie, in April.

... And if they are truly serious about attracting the attention of the east coast's off-road set, they might also want to try flogging a couple of them around on a few of the easier trails at Tellico. --- One way or another, surely THAT would show us what their vehicle is really made of. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" />

I'm VERY interested in seeing one of these things in action... Too bad about the IFS though <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="images/icons/frown.gif" /> I was really stoked when I thought it had a SFA.

Cheers!
Smiley <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans">Originally posted by Mitsuzu:
<strong>
Anyone notice the tripometer has 4 miles and odometer has 1? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> (I guess they are kilometers but point remains)</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans">Actually, its 10 something, the odo has no tenths.

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans">Originally posted by Ed Mc:
<strong>Or know of an available source of Isuzu TD 2.8's or 3.1's?</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans">How about Isuzu NPR's? My brother just bought my dad's '91 Land Cruiser (Dad upgraded to a '94 with the 24valve engine) and he's been looking into the possibility of using an Isuzu NPR engine - four banger turbo diesel. Apparently they both use the same transmission. But that may just be foke lore since he knows of none that have been done (and he knows his Cruisers this was his last one http://www.angelfire.com/id/v8j60/forsale.html and it doesn't even mentin the JDM 5-spd).

Anyway - I've often wondered what the possibility of using a Isuzu medium duty truck diesel in a Trooper was. Anyone have any idea?

If not, I'm just going to keep hoping for the crosslander.

Heath