Gee, randii, i can sure appreciate the dilemma that you, MW, DC, CP et al pondered to arrive at the new "group whatever" policy. The tail o' this deal is wagging and whacking folks left and right.

Andrew, and any other So Cal ZuZoids in on the bumpahs: I plan to pick up mine from Calmini and would be happy to bring others back to Orange county if that makes it possible for any of you to avoid shipping. Gives me an excuse to skip over to the Kern river/ Golden Trout wilderness (as if that is nearby Calmini...!) AJ, (may i call you AJ?) the drive up from SD beats going to Bikersfeet any day. Are you at Merry-mar or what?

Gilbert, if you're in, i'll get yours no problema. Anybody else, chime in.

Regards,
Norman