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Gear or Chain Transfer? #18868 09/07/02 02:27 AM
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jx94148 Offline OP
Body Damage is Cool
What do I have? '87 22R, 5 speed. Do I have a chain or gear driven transfer case? Bigger tires will happen soon and if I have a gear driven i'll maybe want to swap in Marlin's 4.7 gears. My shifter is like this:

------4L
2H----N
4H----4H

Thanks guys.


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Re: Gear or Chain Transfer? #18869 09/07/02 02:44 AM
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ScaldedDog Offline
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One rule of thumb is that if you have a mini/4Runner t-case neutral, you have a gear driven case. The chain driven cases, or at least mine, didn't have a neutral. Marlin's site used to have a great page to help you answer this question easily, but I can't find it now.

Mark

<small>[ September 06, 2002, 09:53 PM: Message edited by: ScaldedDog ]</small>


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Re: Gear or Chain Transfer? #18870 09/07/02 04:44 AM
Anonymous
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its gear driven <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

Re: Gear or Chain Transfer? #18871 09/07/02 05:31 AM
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jx94148 Offline OP
Body Damage is Cool
Thanks, I have some reading to do and important decisions to make. It looks like I have a forward shifting case but top shift cases are cheap at the boneyard. I was aware of the Marlin site but never read much of it. There is a lot to digest there.

Just a tiny snippet of what I learned so far:

'84-'88 Carb. 22R, forward shift, 21 spline, G54 tranny.

<small>[ September 07, 2002, 12:42 AM: Message edited by: jx94148 ]</small>


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Re: Gear or Chain Transfer? #18872 09/07/02 11:21 AM
Anonymous
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the search button is your friend.Try here and at pirate4x4.com.There is prob. thousands of posts on the subject.Youll see Marlin isnt the only place to get the parts for the swap <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> nice pictures,really makes me want to move

<small>[ September 07, 2002, 06:25 AM: Message edited by: PJR ]</small>

Re: Gear or Chain Transfer? #18873 09/09/02 08:36 AM
Anonymous
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all 22r and 22re engines with a 5 speed tranny have a gear driven.
All 22rte,3vze, and any truck or runner with a auto tranny have a chain driven.

both t cases are tough as nails. the gear driven can be regeared to 4.70 to 1 but in its stock configuration it is geared higher than the chain driven.

NOTE: the above listings are asuming that a t case swap has not been done

Re: Gear or Chain Transfer? #18874 09/09/02 03:06 PM
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Red_Chili Offline
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You got the good box, gear drive, 21 spline, I think fwd shift. Top shift, forward shift, does not matter, both can be made to work with a double tcase, retaining the forward shift or converting it as you please. The rear case must be top shift. It just means (fwd shift) you have long shift rails that go into the tranny tailpiece, where the shifter is placed. They can be converted, but no need. Consider a fwd shift front box retaining your current shifting arrangement, then a top shift rear box. Work fine last long time.

<small>[ September 09, 2002, 10:07 AM: Message edited by: Bill_Morgan ]</small>


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Re: Gear or Chain Transfer? #18875 09/09/02 04:32 PM
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DirtyHarry Offline
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans">Originally posted by Johndeere0817:
<strong>
All 22rte,3vze, and any truck or runner with a auto tranny have a chain driven.
</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans">Actually 22RTEs that have 5 speed R151F transmissions (an automatic was optional in trucks and standard in turbo 4Runners) come with the highly desireable 23 spline gear driven transfer case.

Re: Gear or Chain Transfer? #18876 09/09/02 08:04 PM
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tkrispin Offline
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans">Originally posted by ScaldedDog:
<strong>One rule of thumb is that if you have a mini/4Runner t-case neutral, you have a gear driven case. The chain driven cases, or at least mine, didn't have a neutral.
Mark</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans">Just to confuse things even more: I have a v6, and it is chain driven. And I have a t-case neutral setting.

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans">Originally posted by Johndeere0817: <strong>[gear driven t-case] in its stock configuration it is geared higher than the chain driven.</strong> </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans">Is this what you mean? From Marlin's website: </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans">All V6 mini trucks use the chain drive tcase and have a 2.57 low range gear. Most 4 Cylinder mini trucks use a gear drive t/case with a 2.28 low range. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans">


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Re: Gear or Chain Transfer? #18877 09/10/02 12:44 AM
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Brian894X4 Offline
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans">Originally posted by tkrispin:
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans">Originally posted by ScaldedDog:
<strong>One rule of thumb is that if you have a mini/4Runner t-case neutral, you have a gear driven case. The chain driven cases, or at least mine, didn't have a neutral.
Mark</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans">Just to confuse things even more: I have a v6, and it is chain driven. And I have a t-case neutral setting.

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans">Originally posted by Johndeere0817: <strong>[gear driven t-case] in its stock configuration it is geared higher than the chain driven.</strong> </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans">Is this what you mean? From Marlin's website: </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans">All V6 mini trucks use the chain drive tcase and have a 2.57 low range gear. Most 4 Cylinder mini trucks use a gear drive t/case with a 2.28 low range. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans"></strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans">Check out your gear/tranny code on your door jam. Just in case you don't know where it is, check out this picture. I have the gearcode circled. The tranny code would be right next to the gearcode. In this picture, the tranny code it W56. I'd be interested if on your truck it is R150, W56 or some other code. Let us know.

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