</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans">Originally posted by Eric D:
<strong>I hope we can quit hating France, and Iraq ... as citizens.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans">No one said here that they HATE France or Iraq for that matter...

It's actually the leaders of those countries that cause soooo many problems for everybody...

HATE is a very strong word and should only be used in context against a situation that has a direct effect on you....

Not as a gerneral term to show your feelings <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" />

That just shows signs of weakness, and The Weak always try to sabotage the Strong ! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" />

<small>[ March 19, 2003, 03:56 PM: Message edited by: Jason A ]</small>

Bwahahahahahah!!! Jason, where did you get all of those pics? Did you make them? If so, you're in the wrong business... you should consider a career as a cartoonist or political satirist!

You crack me up!

Powell

P.S. - For those of you lashing out for peace, I would like to see your comments when Saddam is gone and we start documenting his atrocities and destroying all of the weapons. For the record, there is a cost to peace and the Iraqi people will soon have the OPTION to choose peace for the first time in a very long time.

<img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/smile.gif" /> News from the front:
Following orders from Israeli Defence Forces Home Command, we just opened our NBC Masks and kits for checking, and prepare the "protected spaces" at home.
Starting this moment life will go on with everybody "attached" to his personal NBC kit (to school, work, everywhere).
I hope it will be less intensive here than it was in 1991.
Some radio channels will broadcast silence, so we can leave the radios working and if an attack will start when we sleep an alarm will be sounded over these channels to wake us up to wear the masks (it's 22:55 her this moment).
My kids are excited...(Last time they where too young to understand.
Good night,
Kobi

Kobi -

good luck, man. to you and your family, and your countrymen.

Hope your sleep is not interrupted by the radio.

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans">Originally posted by Kobi:
<strong> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/smile.gif" /> News from the front:
Following orders from Israeli Defence Forces Home Command, we just opened our NBC Masks and kits for checking, and prepare the "protected spaces" at home.
Starting this moment life will go on with everybody "attached" to his personal NBC kit (to school, work, everywhere).
I hope it will be less intensive here than it was in 1991.
Some radio channels will broadcast silence, so we can leave the radios working and if an attack will start when we sleep an alarm will be sounded over these channels to wake us up to wear the masks (it's 22:55 her this moment).
My kids are excited...(Last time they where too young to understand.
Good night,
Kobi</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans">Kobi,

My prayers and my family's prayers will be for you and your family during this time. I hope I get the chance to go four wheeling with you some time in the Promised Land...

Powell

Kobi, my wife has friends and family over there....

Everytime we hear of another bombing, we get very nervous and think what it must be like having to live in that situation.

We hope all goes well for you guys and Saddam doesn't try to pull any crap....

Hopefully he'll be captured, which might be a possibility....but we're with you guys all the way!!

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans">Originally posted by Jason A:
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans"><strong>Ya know....the French and the UN had their chance...they didn't do diddly....How many times will you let a bad person keep doing bad things? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/confused.gif" /> </strong>[/QUOTE]

"Bad" seems pretty relative when 15 odd years ago Rumsfield and the gang were embracing and supporting this guy and his methods of warefare against Iran. Of course, after a million civillian people (thats human beings, such as you and myself) dead we conveniently forget this.

If we take the popular logic such as you state, why aren't we going after N. Korea, China, etc? It becomes apparent that human rights, liberation, WMD, nonexistent ties to Al Quaida, etc isn't the issue.

Let's all be careful to steer clear of the line between discussion and textual assault, so this valid (but off topic) thread doesn't get locked. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/smile.gif" />

Yech -
To wake up to the stench of "Self-Rightious" Americanism.

Hey, wake up people... Bush, Blair and Sharon are the REAL problems in the world today.

Where were you when you when Pinochet, Suharto, the Shah, etc. were Terrorising their innocent civilians? That's right you were chanting USA, USA, USA. By the way, the CIA overthrew the original POPULAR governments and installed them. WHY? Because they weren't POPULAR with American corporations and American interests! You don't give a "rats ass" about what other people think or want, why should the American Government!

Hey, how about that chummy photo of Rumsfeld and Hussein shaking hands... taken at the same time that he was gassing his "own" people.

Or how about that supplying Iraq with the materials ands supplies to make those weapons of mass destruction (anybody see that video of the MOAB, or Hiroshima and Nagasaki? Cool weapons of mass destruction)

How about supplying weapons to both Iraq and Iran at the same time... a war that killed over a million people.

Ya, it was a good thing that we liberated the poor Kuwaiti people from the evil Hussein and re-install the unwanted, unpopular Kuwaiti Monarchy.

Hey, how about the US Army experimenting with LSD on unsuspecting US Servicemen. Or experimenting on some Florida citizens with Chemical weapons.

How about those American Servicemen on the USS Liberty that were MURDERED by a certain friend of America in 1967, and then quietly swept under the rug.

Yup the US Government is sooo truthful to the American people.

Hey, how about the "Gulf of Tonkin"... LBJ LIED to the American people! 56,000 American Men and Women died because of that LIE! And why? because the US Government wanted to support an unpopular, unelected government against a POPULAR movement! Who cares if it was even remotely Communist, IT WAS WHAT THE PEOPLE WANTED!

Viva La France!

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans">Originally posted by Michael S. Dean:
<strong>Yech -
To wake up to the stench of "Self-Rightious" Americanism.

Hey, wake up people... Bush, Blair and Sharon are the REAL problems in the world today.

Where were you when you when Pinochet, Suharto, the Shah, etc. were Terrorising their innocent civilians? That's right you were chanting USA, USA, USA. By the way, the CIA overthrew the original POPULAR governments and installed them. WHY? Because they weren't POPULAR with American corporations and American interests! You don't give a "rats ass" about what other people think or want, why should the American Government!

Hey, how about that chummy photo of Rumsfeld and Hussein shaking hands... taken at the same time that he was gassing his "own" people.

Or how about that supplying Iraq with the materials ands supplies to make those weapons of mass destruction (anybody see that video of the MOAB, or Hiroshima and Nagasaki? Cool weapons of mass destruction)

How about supplying weapons to both Iraq and Iran at the same time... a war that killed over a million people.

Ya, it was a good thing that we liberated the poor Kuwaiti people from the evil Hussein and re-install the unwanted, unpopular Kuwaiti Monarchy.

Hey, how about the US Army experimenting with LSD on unsuspecting US Servicemen. Or experimenting on some Florida citizens with Chemical weapons.

How about those American Servicemen on the USS Liberty that were MURDERED by a certain friend of America in 1967, and then quietly swept under the rug.

Yup the US Government is sooo truthful to the American people.

Hey, how about the "Gulf of Tonkin"... LBJ LIED to the American people! 56,000 American Men and Women died because of that LIE! And why? because the US Government wanted to support an unpopular, unelected government against a POPULAR movement! Who cares if it was even remotely Communist, IT WAS WHAT THE PEOPLE WANTED!

Viva La France!</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans">oh my... <img border="0" alt="[Barf]" title="" src="graemlins/barf.gif" />