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Re: OT: Well, since today is "the" day...we gotta have some laughter.... #202971 03/20/03 02:30 AM
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans">Originally posted by Hambone:
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans">Originally posted by highmtndesert:
<strong>My son joined the Army after 9/11 and I very much support him.http://www.merseyworld.com/imagine/lyrics/imagine.htm</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans">Be sure to let your son know there are a lot of folks in the States that are proud of him and the other men and women serving today.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans">Damn right, I love our soldiers. Let them know that just because the liberal media in this country only gives air time to the anti war sentiment, most of us are 185% behind them. GOD BLESS THEM, GOD SPEED.

This was a fitting thing I found on another board:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans">Mrs. Chapman made one hell of a speech, didn't she?
Last week, the Shelby County (Alabama) Legislative Delegation hosted a
"Stand Up for America Rally." More than 1,200 people attended including
featured speakers Chief Justice Roy Moore, Adjutant General Mark Bowen and
Alabama State Auditor Beth Chapman.

Attached is a copy of Mrs. Chapman's speech, which resulted in five standing
ovations, tremendous applause and an encore. It's a short read and well
worth it.

I hope you enjoy it as we continue to "Stand up for America!"

Stand Up for America Rally Speech By: Beth Chapman
I'm here tonight because men and women of the United States military have
given their lives for my freedom. I am not here tonight because Sheryl
Crowe, Rosie O'Donnell, Martin Sheen, George Clooney, Jane Fonda or Phil
Donahue, sacrificed their lives for me.

If my memory serves me correctly, it was not movie stars or musicians, but
the United States Military who fought on the shores of Iwo Jima, the jungles
of Vietnam, and the beaches of Normandy. Tonight, I say we should support
the President of the United States and the U.S. Military and tell the
liberal, tree-hugging, Birkenstock-wearing, hippy, tie-dyed liberals to go
make their movies and music and whine somewhere else.

After all, if they lived in Iraq, they wouldn't be allowed the freedom of
speech they're being given here today. Ironically, they would be put to
death at the hands of Sadam Husssein or Osama Bin Laden. I want to know how
the very people who are against war because of the loss of life, can
possibly be the same people who are for abortion? They are the same people
who are for animal rights but against the rights of the unborn.

The movie stars say they want to go to Iraq and serve as "human shields" for
the Iraqis. I say let them buy a one-way ticket and go.
No one likes war. I hate war! But the one thing I hate more is the fact that
this country has been forced into war-innocent people have lost their lives
- - and there but for the grace of God, it could have been my brother, my
husband, or even worse my own son.

On December 7, 1941, there are no records of movie stars treading the
blazing waters of Pearl Harbor.

On September 11, 2001; there are no photos of movie stars standing as "human
shields" against the debris and falling bodies ascending from the World
Trade Center. There were only policemen and firemen -- underpaid civil
servants who gave their all with nothing expected in return.
When the USS Cole was bombed, there were no movie stars guarding the ship --
where were the human shields then?
If America's movie stars want to be human shields, let them shield the
gang-ridden streets of Los Angeles, or New York City, let them shield the
lives of the children of North Birmingham whose mothers lay them down to
sleep on the floor each night to shelter them from stray bullets.

If they want to be human shields, I say let them shield the men and women of
honesty and integrity that epitomizes courage and embody the spirit of
freedom by wearing the proud uniforms of the United States Military. Those
are the people who have earned and deserve shielding!

Throughout the course of history, this country has remained free, not
because of movie stars and liberal activists, but because of brave men and
women who hated war too. However, they lay down their lives so that we all
may live in freedom. After all - "What greater love hath no man, that he lay
down his life for his friend," or in this case a country.

We should give our military honor and acknowledgement and not let their
lives be in vain. If you want to see true human shields, walk through
Arlington Cemetery. There lie human shields, heroes, and the BRAVE Americans
who didn't get on television and talk about being a human shield -- they
were human shields.

I thank God tonight for freedom -- those who bought and paid for it with
their lives in the past -- those who will protect it in the present and
defend it in the future.

America has remained silent too long! God-fearing people have remained
silent too long!

We must lift our voices united in a humble prayer to God for guidance and
the strength and courage to sustain us throughout whatever the future may
hold.

After the tragic events of Sept. 11th, my then eleven -year-old son said
terrorism is a war against them and us and if you're not one of us, then
you're one of them.

So in closing tonight, let us be of one accord, let us stand proud, and let
us be the human shields of prayer, encouragement and support for the
President, our troops and their families and our country.

May God bless America, the land of the free, the home of the brave and the
greatest country.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans">


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Re: OT: Well, since today is "the" day...we gotta have some laughter.... #202972 03/20/03 02:58 AM
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Hey Michael Dean...I'm NOT going to say what I WANTED to say about you...but I will say this: You're opinion is meaningless, and worthless...I COULD respect it however, if you MOVED to France...but alas, you STILL live here, and just gripe and complain...you move to France, become a citizen...THEN when you spew like you did, SOMEONE MIGHT give a hoot!! LMAO


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Re: OT: Well, since today is "the" day...we gotta have some laughter.... #202973 03/20/03 03:00 AM
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I have a real problem with one statement in the French Wars paper.

WW1 France is saved by the United States..WTF! I really must protest this blanket statement.
The US joined the war in April of 1917 AFTER Hundreds of thousands of British and Australian Troops had shed their lives fighting for French freedom (over 2 million died or were MIA out of about 8 million mobilised from the British Empire during WW1).
I would accept the statement that "America joined with the Brtish Allied nations in liberating France".
I am not downplaying the US part in WW1 but I think it needs to be seen in perspective.

Its now 12:00 our time and the war hasn't started yet. I've got the telly on so I know what is happening.

I wholeheartedly give my support to the soldiers over there, after all they are doing their job. And I am hoping that they come back to us alive and well.

<small>[ March 19, 2003, 09:03 PM: Message edited by: Craig ]</small>

Re: OT: Well, since today is "the" day...we gotta have some laughter.... #202974 03/20/03 03:08 AM
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Craig, I admire your own patriotism for your homeland. You are absolutely correct. And just know that most educated Americans are aware that Australia has always been a "stand up" Country in world events since its creation.

My father spent time with OZ troops in the South Pacific during WW2, and he had fine things to say about his experiences down under.



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Re: OT: Well, since today is "the" day...we gotta have some laughter.... #202975 03/20/03 03:12 AM
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My son is in the Army currently on the front line in Kuwait. He is defending our country and the rights of all of us to have a difference of opinion. He is also about to free the people of Iraq. I am proud of him and pray he will come home safely.


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Re: OT: Well, since today is "the" day...we gotta have some laughter.... #202976 03/20/03 03:15 AM
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans">Originally posted by mrGUY:
<strong>To Bretwaldo: umm..well...it comes from the point of view of a real American, who served in the US Military. And who's father served in the US Military, and who's Grandfather served in the US Military.

I am a patriot who has had it up to HERE with you ignorant, little sh!ts who have never been taught the true meaning of the Constitution of the United States.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans">mrGAY please, please take a breather man. So your implying that to be a real American or to hold the legitimacy to wish/invoke/inflict physical harm on another fellow American I need to come from a military family? Isn't that a prerequisite of most military and totalitarian governments? Maybe your on the wrong side of the pond my freind! Needless to say I believe I meet your requirements anyway. Unfortunately I havent been endowed with the immense sense of power and omnipotence your experience has lent you.

Number one problem here is your total inability to counter point or to make any point other than your fervent, blind loyalty to a government that 3 years ago you were probably cursing. Different leadership sure - but the same old inbred habits and agendas and party vendettas typical to be found in any our fine career politicians - rep or dem.

You're gonna hafta expound when you say I've never been taught the "true" meaning of the Constitution. As I see it, its been the likes of you that have thrown the whole thing to wind since 9/11. You that thrive in public spaces that now involve personal searches, constant surveillance, and interrogation understand what I'm talking about. All in the name of your "saftey" and "security" for now, but what about in 15 years? I have a hard time seeing this progressing into something good or even benign for that matter. Powers given to select leadership such as those in the Homeland Security Act always produce corruption and abuse. Have you yourself read the Homeland Security Act? Creepy stuff my freind.


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Re: OT: Well, since today is "the" day...we gotta have some laughter.... #202977 03/20/03 03:16 AM
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Let's please not give each other too much bull...

after all our soldiers have always fought for everyone's freedom to speak his or her mind as much as anyone else, and if you regard anyones' opinion as meaningless then all of our soldiers have fought in vain, and many have died for nothing.

We all like the concept of freedom right?
<img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

[edit] hahah looks like while I was typing this, maybe a couple of other guys were thinking the same thing

<small>[ March 19, 2003, 09:21 PM: Message edited by: Eric D ]</small>

Re: OT: Well, since today is "the" day...we gotta have some laughter.... #202978 03/20/03 03:32 AM
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans">Originally posted by bretwalda:
<strong>[QUOTE]. Have you yourself read the Homeland Security Act? Creepy stuff my freind.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans">First of all, don't ever call me your "friend."

And my loyalty to my Country is something you could never understand, so you needn't attempt to make a point there, either.

Your ignorance of history, as well as current events is typical of so many in this Country today. I could point-counter-point with you and the other one all day, but it would be a waste of time. I've dealt with liberals/socialists for many years and have learned that facts have little to do with their true motives. You guys are simply not worth the effort.

This war isn't something to occupy the time between BJs, or to divert attention from bad polls. We have been forced to take this action by international Law. If you can't see that fact, then you are not worth another word.



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Re: OT: Well, since today is "the" day...we gotta have some laughter.... #202979 03/20/03 03:44 AM
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans">Originally posted by mrGUY:
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans">Originally posted by bretwalda:
<strong>[QUOTE]. Have you yourself read the Homeland Security Act? Creepy stuff my freind.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans">First of all, don't ever call me your "friend."

And my loyalty to my Country is something you could never understand, so you needn't attempt to make a point there, either.

Your ignorance of history, as well as current events is typical of so many in this Country today. I could point-counter-point with you and the other one all day, but it would be a waste of time. I've dealt with liberals/socialists for many years and have learned that facts have little to do with their true motives. You guys are simply not worth the effort.

This war isn't something to occupy the time between BJs, or to divert attention from bad polls. We have been forced to take this action by international Law. If you can't see that fact, then you are not worth another word.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans">Amen


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Re: OT: Well, since today is "the" day...we gotta have some laughter.... #202980 03/20/03 03:45 AM
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To those of you who are lowering to personal attacks, thats not the way things get done around here. I hope you clean up your act before the thread gets axed. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" />

That doesnt mean I dont agree with Guy, Powell, or other Patriots here on the board, it is just that the anti american liberals wont get a rise out of me, they arent worth it.

<small>[ March 19, 2003, 09:49 PM: Message edited by: DougH ]</small>


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