<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Ron S:<BR><B>I think it is all part of the picture. Unfortunately, I have run across people with the locker that ping as well. I do think the 4.3 rear will certainly help the automatic keep in a better rev range, but in comparing with the manual, your 4th is more of an overdrive than the manual 5th so the manual most likely highway cruises at a higher rpm than you even with the shorter rear gear.</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Ron, I don't suppose any of this interests you anymore since you're getting rid of the truck. But I see what you mean about the many factors that can contribute to the ping. You say manuals have a higher final drive ratio as opposed to automatics, but then there's the torque converter to take into account. I'm not gonna even bother persuing this since Ken's and James's posts both nullified my theory <P><B> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans">quote:</font><HR><P>I am sorry you think I have been mean to Roger. It has never been intentional. Everyone of Roger's ideas has had significant merit, it is just that the ping problem encompasses so many variables that it is impossible to apply one answer or fix unilaterally and may involve a multisystem approach for any truck with the problem.<BR></B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Ron, don't apologize. Those posts have been both educational and entertaining, which are two words that are usually not in the same sentence. I hope you stick around even after you sell the truck to keep Roger on his toes <P>take care,<BR>phong<P>------------------<BR><B>2000 4Runner Highlander SR5 4WD</B><BR><A HREF="http://members.home.net/malice1/" TARGET=_blank>My Webpage</A><BR>ICQ: 1010567<BR>AOL/AIM: Malice9999