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Intermittant starter failure, Not contacts, read-on
#332491
10/16/03 04:38 PM
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Joined: Sep 2003
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Body Damage is Cool
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My 85 pickup, 22R, used to do the single "click" once in a while. I replaced the contacts, so far, so good. about a year later, starter would give the same problem as the single "click" problem, but no "click". Teeth looking nasty on starter anyways, (teenager scratching all the time), so I took it out, and replaced it with a re-built from Pep-Boys. (free, I used the paperwork from the PO on my 85 4Runner). Same problem. Starts up great in the morning, but seems to fail after warm-up and driving a while, then parking it for a few minutes, "click" problem without the click. So, It's not the starter itself, I had it tested again, It's not the contacts. I am thinking of replacing the solinoid wire from end to end. Any other thoughts from you guys? Thanks for putting up with the long post!
85 4Runner - With NEW Marlin 4.7 Gears!! It's a whole new beast!
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Re: Intermittant starter failure, Not contacts, read-on
[Re: Staceman]
#332492
10/16/03 04:50 PM
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Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 2,941
J Roll Me Over
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Corrosion inside battery cables...
"A young man who does not have what it takes to perform military service is not likely to have what it takes to make a living." - John F. Kennedy
Proud owner of an 88 Montero (with a blown engine).
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Re: Intermittant starter failure, Not contacts, read-on
[Re: Staceman]
#332493
10/16/03 05:22 PM
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Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 197
Wheeler
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Make up a jumper wire , 10ga., about 10 ft. long w alligator clips at each end. Next time it doesn't start , set the emergency brake, put in neutral, turn the key to on , pop the hood ,connect one end of the wire to the + terminal of the battery and CAREFULLY touch the other end to the solenoid contact (small wire terminal) on your starter. If it kicks right over you have low voltage to the solenoid, poor battery condition , bad ignition switch , corroded/broken wires, worn relay or a combo of all. I just carry the jumper in my glove all the time. Got me out of a jam on many hot days.
85' 4x4 e-cab flatbed 22r carb ((SOLD)) 86' 4runner, 22re , "60 buck truck" 95' 4runner, 22re,5sd, last of the good ones 02' Tacoma prerunner, 2.7L, 5spd., 4x4
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Re: Intermittant starter failure, Not contacts, read-on
[Re: Staceman]
#332494
10/16/03 05:55 PM
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Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 130
Wheeler
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I agree with the bad wiring or relay (if you have one). I added a relay and haven't had a starter problem since. Pull the small activation wire off of the starter and use it to operate a relay. One end of the relay should be wired to the battery, the other to the starter (where you removed the previous wire from).
'89 4Runner, V6, Auto, 180K, Some stuff's stock, some isn't.
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Re: Intermittant starter failure, Not contacts, read-on
[Re: Staceman]
#332495
10/17/03 01:04 AM
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Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 712
Rock Warrior
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It's probably high resistance in the starter windings, which increase when hot. A good rule of thumb is to never ever install cheap electrical parts on your vehicles. Pep boys and auto-zone are ok on some mechanical items, but I have seen too many folks burned on the electrical parts. Sure it's life time warranty, but how many times do you want to remove and replace the part. I would say this is just my 2 cents, but instead it's my professional opinion and experience.
John
John Luttrell 2001 4x4 short cab, 3 inch lift with 33 inch mudders and Powertrax no-slip in the rear
1991 Jeep YJ, 4 inch suspension lift on 33" BFG's
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Re: Intermittant starter failure, Not contacts, read-on
#332497
10/17/03 06:31 AM
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Joined: Jan 2000
Posts: 12,153
Web Wheeler
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I would look at the starter relay... and possibly the ignition switch. My '85 has no starter relay, just ignition switch direct to the solenoid. I'll shortly be installing a Painless Wiring HotShot starter relay kit, it comes w/ a push button start switch as well. Will be adding a writeup of the install on my starter repair page.
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Re: Intermittant starter failure, Not contacts, read-on
[Re: Staceman]
#332498
10/17/03 07:25 AM
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Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 75
Getting the Wheeling Fever
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My old truck did this after I installed my body lift, turns out I pulled apart a ground lifting it up. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" />
88 V6 4Runner, 3.4 swap, SAS, front E locker, rear EZ locker, dual cases 2.28/4.7, 63" Chev rears, rears up front etc.
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Re: Intermittant starter failure, Not contacts, read-on
#332500
10/17/03 11:28 PM
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Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 1,686
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Body Damage is Cool
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Thanks for all the info. The ignition key switch is getting harder to turn (on and off). I'll jump the solenoid next, before switching out the ignition switch! Staceman
85 4Runner - With NEW Marlin 4.7 Gears!! It's a whole new beast!
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