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Re: leaf over axles lift [Re: LadyFrog] #337249 10/31/03 04:24 AM
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we know it'll need a drop pitman thingy... and a nice little cv front drive shaft


A dropped pitman arm is a band-aid at best. Hi steer conversion is the right way to do it.

Also a CV needs to go on the rear shaft, not the front. The idea behind a CV is to eliminate driveshaft vibrations at highway speeds. Unless you're driving on the road with the hubs locked in and the transfer case in 4WD, it's a waste of money. Front driveshafts are also long enough that they don't see the bad angles that result from lifting.

Re: leaf over axles lift #337250 11/07/03 09:49 PM
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we know it'll need a drop pitman thingy... and a nice little cv front drive shaft


A dropped pitman arm is a band-aid at best. Hi steer conversion is the right way to do it.

Also a CV needs to go on the rear shaft, not the front. The idea behind a CV is to eliminate driveshaft vibrations at highway speeds. Unless you're driving on the road with the hubs locked in and the transfer case in 4WD, it's a waste of money. Front driveshafts are also long enough that they don't see the bad angles that result from lifting.


oops...left out "and"... <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/pfft.gif" alt="" />heh...drop pitman arm and cv...AND front driveline as we broke ours out on the trail..heh

we are going to go with the drop pitman arm as that is what we have seen on all of the lifts we've looked at...we can always change it later thats half the fun of fixing up the jeep...

as for the front driveline not seeing the angle I would disagree looking at it the front axle cannot be angled to help compensate for the angle as the back can...this makes it see more of the angle even though it is longer...

as far as cost...really has only been $100 for the drop pitmant...brake lines will be $100 replacing all the lines having them made to the new length...front driveline is a cost we altready had regardless of the lift..heh...and the CV will be about $250 ish...over all really not bad $450 + the cost of the new driveline that we'll have made to better fit the new specs when we have the cv done for the back...we're looking at about $650...not too bad...and everthing is still able to be put back to spring over and a shackle lift if we dont like it...so no biggy...it's a jeep...it's ment to be played with <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" />

The most interesting thing I have learned is this:

Everyone has their own oppinion on the whole idea!
<img src="/forums/images/graemlins/nana.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" />


LadyFrog

I miss my little Kia
Re: leaf over axles lift #337251 11/07/03 10:41 PM
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, change your output shaft to a fixed yoke and get a CV drive shaft.


its a cj-5, already has the fixed yoke.

i think you should go SOA. if you are re-wleding spring perches anyway to correct pinion angle due to lifting, might as well put those spring perches on top. do some searching on line, there are millions of write up on SOA conversions. read them and figure out if this is something you think you can do. I would also consider not using your stock springs but retro-fitting some stock yj leafs in. the wider, longer, spring will give you better flex and a better ride.
if you are not a really serious off roader and only plan to run moderate trails..a 2.5 or 4" lift should be fine for you...just bolt it on and use some shims in the rear and go.

good luck

Re: leaf over axles lift #337252 11/08/03 03:20 AM
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LadyFrog Offline OP
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We want her to go here a little better next time:

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LadyFrog

I miss my little Kia
Re: leaf over axles lift [Re: LadyFrog] #337253 11/08/03 06:48 AM
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Fred Blackstone Offline
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Hey, great pictures of fordyce! Thanks for sharing them! I don't know for sure, but it certainly looked like you were having a great time! Also looks as if you really didn't have much trouble that couldn't be resolved with full lockers installed in the differentials! If fordyce is a good example of the toughest trails you'll see, perhaps the SOA setup will be overkill and the added vehicle height a PITA! Have fun with the rebuild and let us know how things are going!


94 YJ, SOA, 2-1/2 Alcans, ARB-front, Detroit-Rear, 4.56:1 gears, Oasis Trailhead compressor, 4:1 Terra Lo, 37x12.50x15 SSR's, 8000 lb Ramsey, & etc.
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