Nice ! Thanks for the info . I think I will get in contact with Rockware and ask about a plate rear bumper for my Rodeo, after the holidays. I've talked with one other custom shop in the 'Springs and they want around $1500 for a tube one. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/drunk.gif" alt="" /> If I was goin tube I'd go Stinky Fab, but I want plate, with a swing spare carrier (I think it can be done?)and hi-lift attachment(or Matts spare hi-lift attachment). Yes I've talked with Matt about his Amigo plate rear, but it doesnt quite fit the body and he'd rather not sell them for Rodeos.