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Re: Tacoma 2.7 damaged motor update #367448 01/05/04 06:31 AM
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I plan to drop the oil pan next weekend to see if I can figure out what the problem is.

I would like to get Toyota to fix it. I have the following in my favor: I have an extended warranty
If you have an extended warranty why are you going to open up the engine??? Not a good idea, this may void the warranty!!!


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Re: Tacoma 2.7 damaged motor update [Re: OOP'S] #367449 01/05/04 05:45 PM
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You bring up a very good point. One that I didn't think about...

On second thought I think I will bring it to a dealer first <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

Thanks,

Re: Tacoma 2.7 damaged motor update #367450 01/18/04 12:56 AM
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Well I figured out what was wrong with my Taco. Seems the bolts holding the tranny to the engine had started to come loose <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />

I thought I had used "red" locktite on them when I installed that tranny but I guess I forgot to (this will teach me <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> )

What ended up happening was the flex plate cracked. The cracks in the plate were casuing the knocking sound as the motor turned it and the squeel/vibration noise was from the flex plate vibrating under a load. This also casued my front main seal to leak too...

I tightenend the bolts up and the noise went away...

So, looks like I have to drop the tranny and change out the flex plate. I plan to change the front main seal at that time too. Got the parts for $150. Not too bad. Better than having to buy a new tranny or get the engine fixed...

Later,

Re: Tacoma 2.7 damaged motor update #367451 01/18/04 01:46 AM
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Glad to hear it wasn't as bad as it could have been.

My Dad said they put in the new short block and replaced the cam and timing chain for free. Not exactly sure why they replaced the cam and timing chain, though. So, it looks like the motor is practically all new. He's pretty happy. Hopefully it was just a fluke.


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Re: Tacoma 2.7 damaged motor update [Re: Brian894X4] #367452 01/18/04 05:16 AM
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I fear that Toyota might be cutting corners in how it builds some of it's products, since it's moved some of it's design and production out of Japan and into places like China, Thailand and even here in the states.



Well Brian, the one and only thing Toyota has to sell over and above the others is their reputation. If they want to ruin their rep by cutting costs and producing junk, then they're going to pay dearly for this decision.

Hopefully, they'll stay the course and continue to produce quality.

Time will tell.

Re: Tacoma 2.7 damaged motor update #367453 01/18/04 03:48 PM
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Oh, I don't think Toyota will ever reduce it's reliability to the level of American domestic cars and trucks. (loaded statement there. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />)

But seriously, they have and will continue to cut some corners to increase profit, because they can afford it. They didn't become the number 2 automaker just because they built good cars. They've been able to maximize profit by figuring out the best compromise between reliablity, reputation and cost. Reliability might be reduced a bit in some areas, but probably not enough to scare away most customers or perhaps even be noticed by most customers. Toyota still builds a good product, with good fit and finish above all else and will continue to do so. However, I do believe there is a difference between vehicles made in Japan by the Japanese and vehicles made elsewhere. Part of it is a gut feeling, part of it is based on hardcore fact. Just because it carries the Toyota name, doesn't mean it's has all of the Toyota quality. The Toyota Bandeirante which was the Brazilian FJ40 made through 2001, was built in a Toyota owned factory, but yet it was one of the biggest pieces of crap Toyota ever built. It had to do a lot with the people that built them and parts used. When I worked for Honda in the very early 1990s, Honda was building one model of the Civic, the low end CX, in Mexico. It was total junker compared to the other Civics, which were made mostly in Japan. There was a real difference in the quality.

Here in the U.S., Toyota outsources much of it's parts to companies like the Tacoma frame to Dana, that it might otherwise not do if the vehicles were built in Japan. Anyone that's ever driven a Japanese car, knows that it's not just that it was made by Toyota or Honda that makes it so great, it's that it used Japanese built parts, which were not necessarily built in house, but were still just as good.




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