Well this morning I went to crank my 4 runner up for work it didn't start. I checked all the normal things connections grounds etc. I found the battery was somewhat dead. I brought it to the parts store it had a tested it had a bad cell so I bought a optima red top. I put the red top in it still does the same thing. It sounds like it is trying to turn over make a little noise but not a full starter turn over noise. I tried jump starting it still the same. I got a used starter relay from a taco still nada. I can crank the egine by hand so it's not seized so what could it be? Could the starter have a flat spot in it? I am a little frost bitten and frustrated at this point since it is about -18 deg with the windchill.


86 Toyota 4 runner
35x12.5 BFG MT's, 4.56's XRC8 winch
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