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Backfire through the TBI #380115 01/14/04 05:48 PM
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 89
rattler98 Offline OP
Getting the Wheeling Fever
Starting about a week ago I have started to have a pretty concerning problem pop up on my rig (no pun intended). I have noticed that when IÆm driving that I will occasionally have a backfire through the TBI, to the point when the engine hesitates and loses power (for just a fraction of a second), and then it will pick right back up. It usually happens when IÆm in too high of a gear and the engine is under a load. The funny thing is that once it happens, it doesnÆt happen again when IÆm driving. Any thoughts on what might be the cause?


1992 Isuzu Rodeo, newly rebuilt 3.1L v6 and rear diff; clear corners, bumper and tails; Aiwa MP3 head unit; Infinity Perfect 10.1 sub; Polk seperates; Sony cross and amps.
Next projects -- New paint, tint, billet grill, nerf bars.
Re: Backfire through the TBI [Re: rattler98] #380116 01/14/04 11:57 PM
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OffRodEO Offline
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could it be timing? maybe you timeing belt is jumping groves


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Re: Backfire through the TBI [Re: OffRodEO] #380117 01/15/04 02:41 AM
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Jim_Paget Offline
Roll Me Over
No timing belt on a 3.1, it has a chain. However, you timing may be off.


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88 YJ with a few changes

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Re: Backfire through the TBI [Re: Jim_Paget] #380118 01/15/04 10:02 PM
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rattler98 Offline OP
Getting the Wheeling Fever
Too retarded, or too advanced? It is unlikly that the chain has jumped, as it has less than 4K miles on it, and as I mentioned before, it only happens once per road trip. Might it be a bad injector?


1992 Isuzu Rodeo, newly rebuilt 3.1L v6 and rear diff; clear corners, bumper and tails; Aiwa MP3 head unit; Infinity Perfect 10.1 sub; Polk seperates; Sony cross and amps.
Next projects -- New paint, tint, billet grill, nerf bars.
Re: Backfire through the TBI [Re: rattler98] #380119 01/16/04 06:54 AM
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Jim_Paget Offline
Roll Me Over
I think that there is a chance that it is an injector. I went through hell a couple of years ago (along with a lot of money) for a similar sounding problem that eventually turned out to be an intermittent short in a splice when I installed a Holley TBI.


Jim Paget
88 YJ with a few changes

www.rrr4x4.com
Re: Backfire through the TBI [Re: rattler98] #380120 01/17/04 06:04 AM
Joined: Dec 1999
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Ed Mc Offline
Body Damage is Cool
Sometimes a bad MAP sensor can do this. Of course backfiring thru the TBI can also ruin a MAP sensor so now you've got the chicken-and-egg thing.

I think if you disconnect the MAP sensor it'll still run, maybe not so great but if it still backfires you could certainly eliminate the MAP as the problem.

If it doesn't backfire with the MAP disconnected the solution is not so clear, but you might try scrounging the local junkyards for a used sensor. Lots of GM TBI vehicles use the same one. And you'll find one on every TBI S-10 2.8.

HTH and Good Luck............ed


'90 Troop 3.4 LS
'89 Troop RS (Has Valve Issues, needs Counseling)
HI, I'm Ed and I'm a Trooper-holic!
Keep On Troopin'......
Re: Backfire through the TBI ***FIXED*** [Re: Ed Mc] #380121 02/20/04 08:11 PM
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rattler98 Offline OP
Getting the Wheeling Fever
Shortly after my last post on this subject, my rig started to develop an intermittent misfire, which was more pronounced as the engine was cold. I decided to do a little old fashion trouble shooting and started with the vacuum lines, of which one was disconnected. This didnÆt fix the problem, so the search moved onto the ignition wires. I used the old trick of looking at the wires once it was dark to see if I could find any misfires. I noticed a pretty good glow at the ignition coil, and another that ran the length of one of the wires. I pulled the ignition coil wire to find that it had corroded completely right at the coil. Sanded the coil plug, and as well changed the coil wire. Still, the car misfired, so I replaced all the plugs and wires. As I went to pull off the fifth of six wires I found the cause of the problem. The terminal was attached to the spark plug, and the wire was broken inside the plug boot û DOH!!! A new set of wires, and plugs and it fired up as good as new! As well, no more backfires!!!

As fate would have it, after allowing the engine to warm I discovered a 2 inch crack in the upper tank of the radiator û DOOOOHHHHHH AGAIN!!! $118 later, a new ALL METAL radiator from http://www.globalradiatordist.com/ and IÆm rolling again!!!


1992 Isuzu Rodeo, newly rebuilt 3.1L v6 and rear diff; clear corners, bumper and tails; Aiwa MP3 head unit; Infinity Perfect 10.1 sub; Polk seperates; Sony cross and amps.
Next projects -- New paint, tint, billet grill, nerf bars.
Re: Backfire through the TBI ***FIXED*** [Re: rattler98] #380122 02/20/04 08:53 PM
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Ed Mc Offline
Body Damage is Cool
Cool, light shows are nice but not under the hood!

BTW thanks for the tip on the radiator, I needed one for my '89 Spacecab and best price I could find was around $134 at www.radiatorbarn.com.

Just looked it up at your site and it was $104 with free shipping. Sweet! Time to place an order. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" />


'90 Troop 3.4 LS
'89 Troop RS (Has Valve Issues, needs Counseling)
HI, I'm Ed and I'm a Trooper-holic!
Keep On Troopin'......
Re: Backfire through the TBI ***FIXED*** [Re: Ed Mc] #380123 02/23/04 07:53 PM
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 89
rattler98 Offline OP
Getting the Wheeling Fever
Glad to help!!! I had to wait 2 days (ordered Monday, arrived Wednesday morning), but for the money, it was worth the wait!


1992 Isuzu Rodeo, newly rebuilt 3.1L v6 and rear diff; clear corners, bumper and tails; Aiwa MP3 head unit; Infinity Perfect 10.1 sub; Polk seperates; Sony cross and amps.
Next projects -- New paint, tint, billet grill, nerf bars.







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