4x4wire, I think, is known as that "rebel" break-away site started by all of the real contributors to that other, almost forgotten, site.... And it's also known as the laid-back, good-guy, average-joe, non-pissed-off, medium-core site...

I think... <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

I'm really quite surprised by all that. Granted I don't know the history between you (you meaning both you - Joe- and a more general you, the more senior members of this site), but I always thought things were cordial between the admins here and the admins of Yotatech.

There are so many people that are members of both Yotatech and ODW that it doesn't do any good to even keep this thread alive. I seriously don't get what the animosity is about.

What's the bit about "You gotsta wonder about THEM"? For someone to say they don't tolerate flame wars, that sure sounds provocative. I'll tell you for a fact that the mods and admins at Yotatech wouldn't tolerate a flame war either. Yotatech also welcomes members of any and all other boards too. Just seems to me like you're talking out both sides of your mouth - making ODW sound all nice and sweet but getting a subtle dig in at the same time. Doesn't seem like the best way to foster a good relationship.

Clayton's name has come up more than a few times in this thread as well. I think everyone knows that he likes to stir the pot, so to speak. He's tried stirring the pot alot lately - this thread is a direct result of it. I'd think that the mods and admins here would step up to put a stop to those actions if they truely don't tolerate flaming other boards.

I fail to see why this thread even stays open.

LOL, now Brian is bringing ORC into the fold. There are just too many different sites/forums out there... and apparently we have a "beef" with all of them. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" />

You are basically right about how 4x4Wire came to be Brian.

No, I wasn't. I took a leave of absence because of a unnamed mod.

As for the other forum, I won't comment of what I really think, but if you take the time to see how many replies are on the stupidest threads ever you will see what I mean. Those threads would get at tops 2 replies here. (little_joe feel free to delete if it is "bashing")

Yes it has, and their is a reason for it, which I can't discuss.
Oh, and I'd like for my rig to be taken off the YT "SliderZ" <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" /> page.

Come on Eric, enough already. For someone that doesn't like Yotatech you sure do surf there alot. Believe me when I say that you're not the only one that would like the bling bling and/or newb posts to go away, but in the interest of tolerance, just like here on 4x4wire, we don't run them off.

We don't care about "fostering a relationship". Like I said earlier, we have no problems with any other site, but don't take that to mean that we are looking to walk hand in hand through a field of daisys singing kum-bah-yah. They can all do their thing and we will do our's.



We don't have time to babysit each and every user but we DO take action when it is necessary. In fact I seem to recall getting flamed on another board last month for the moderating I did here. Does that ring a bell Tom?



Don't worry it will be gone soon.

Alright I got my answer and the reason why I asked it. Now delete it or lock it or whatever. Didnt mean for everyone to get all emotional.

I thought maybe there was an inside joke or something to it, but since it seems to be bigger than that- drop it.

Tom, my comment about "them" is not directed at any particular site. Don't let your position or affiliation with other sites jaundice my words or infer an attack against any site or person. So you know, there is animosity between the people who started 4x4Wire and off-road.com (where our founders all came from), but you don't hear or see us bashing ORC. We have seen bashing from another very large 4WD non-vehicle-specific site. So while you choose to infer one thing, you don't have the full scope.

You're right - Sherri's question has been answered, so we can kill this.

Now you don't like how sliderz is spelled.

Hmm..

Guess what. Roger Brown sells his as "Rock Sliderz". I know, I have a set. Does that make them suck? Or do you think less of Roger now?