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Re: Snow wheeling pics of a diesel 4Runner and myself. [Re: mainer] #386880 01/26/04 02:42 AM
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I had a 84 extra cab diesel 4x4 with a 2.7 L diesel. That thing was a bloody dog for power. I lived with that diesel for about 8 years and when i sold it i was a very very happy person. Ever replace anything on a diesel? Not only are the parts rare, but they are insanely expensive. Gutless as hell.Diesel can be hard to find in some remote areas. Hard to start in cold weather. Heaters dont work good because they run so cool. All drivetrain parts are diesel specific so if you blow your tranny like i did you have to get a diesel tranny. I did love my diesel when i had it because it was a very rare truck and people would always ask if it was a diesel and where did i get it. That novelty wears off fast when you have to find parts for it.
Thats my diesel rant. Enjoy your gas pots cause diesels aint all that. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Re: Snow wheeling pics of a diesel 4Runner and myself. [Re: mainer] #386881 01/26/04 02:54 AM
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would the diesels out of the older volkswagens have enough power for our trucks? how do you adapt the bellhousing?


My thinking was to find one of the early chevy small block diesels that Oldsmobile put out in the 70s and 80s.

Should be able to use Adv Adaptors kit to install it in the truck, and if not, then it can't be that hard to fab.

End Result: Space compact, but powerful.

Other than that, I'd be inclined to snag a vocational truck and get the motor out of it- Hino, Izuzu, UD, etc.

Re: Snow wheeling pics of a diesel 4Runner and myself. [Re: mainer] #386882 01/26/04 03:00 AM
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On the other hand, I'll probably get around to a project like that soon after pigs evolve wings and we have pork chops in the tree tops. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/oink.gif" alt="" />

Re: Snow wheeling pics of a diesel 4Runner and myself. [Re: fpkelly] #386883 01/26/04 03:59 AM
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I found a 2L-T, and no one seemed interested <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> . It's in this Post . Maybe I should have put an exclamation point in the thread name <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />.
I rebuilt my engine over the summer or I would have thought of buying it myself. I just looked and it didn't even sell <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" />. Maybe if we ask real nice, they would tell us where they got it, or if they could get a few more.

Re: Snow wheeling pics of a diesel 4Runner and myself. #386884 01/26/04 03:59 AM
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I had a 84 extra cab diesel 4x4 with a 2.7 L diesel. That thing was a bloody dog for power. I lived with that diesel for about 8 years and when i sold it i was a very very happy person. Ever replace anything on a diesel? Not only are the parts rare, but they are insanely expensive. Gutless as hell.Diesel can be hard to find in some remote areas. Hard to start in cold weather. Heaters dont work good because they run so cool. All drivetrain parts are diesel specific so if you blow your tranny like i did you have to get a diesel tranny. I did love my diesel when i had it because it was a very rare truck and people would always ask if it was a diesel and where did i get it. That novelty wears off fast when you have to find parts for it.
Thats my diesel rant. Enjoy your gas pots cause diesels aint all that. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />


I've ridden in that 4Runner and as far as I can tell it has just as much power as my truck and a heck of a lot more low end torque. The only drawback is if someone want's to cruise at high illegal speeds on the highway. It runs out of rpm really quick. His is a later model mid 1990s turbo diesel which is an entirely different animal. I've seen the specs on the non-turbo Toyota diesels and yes they are dogs, very gutless. As for parts, they aren't really that expensive. Finding them can be an issue, but these engines are extremely reliable and durable. He purchased a brand spanking new turbo diesel exhaust manifold from Toyota for only $100. That's not expensive. The turbos are the same turbos used on the 22RT-E, so turbos and parts are nearly the same as are aftermarket stuff. Some parts interchange with the 2L and 2LTs that were sold here in the states so dealer parts are still available. He also makes a lot of his own stuff or adapts stuff to work.

As for finding diesel, I've been to some of the most remote areas of where I live and diesel is easy to find, because that's what all the ranchers use and ranchers are usually who occupy the remote area. Heck, as soon as I leave the city, diesel is easier to find because all the outlining gas stations carry it. Here in town, you have to go to station after station to find someone who carries it, which can be an issue, until you figure out who has it and who doesn't.

As for being hard to start, his engine does not have the glowplugs hooked up to power and it started right up with only a few cranks, even cold. In the cold sub freezing temps up there on the mountain it ran find and the heater worked great. As soon as he gets the glowplugs hooked up it should start in nearly any weather on the first crank. The one issue there is with weather is the gelling of diesel fuel at temps below about 15 degrees F. However, I'm not sure if biodiesel is any different. Also, there are simple diesel fuel addititives that can correct that.

Obviously, for a project truck like this, it's extremely helpful that the owner knows his truck in and out and can basicly basicly fix any aspect of the truck and can even make some parts if needed.


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Re: Snow wheeling pics of a diesel 4Runner and myself. #386885 01/26/04 04:14 AM
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hey brian...looks like fun..ive had just about all the snow i need for the year...im sure its not ver yet but owell....are those guys local as well?...i swear ive wheeld with that tan runner at wildcat this year..


I don't think it was him. It's been layed up for a while with all the mods and this was basic the maiden run with the current mods. Ya, it's nice to keep the snow up in the mountains instead of blocking my driveway. Although I can't wait until later this year, when I can go wheeling on dry ground at 8000 feet again. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />


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Re: Snow wheeling pics of a diesel 4Runner and myself. [Re: fpkelly] #386886 01/26/04 04:18 AM
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What I want to know is where are the people getting their 2LT's? I looked and looked and couldn't find one.


I can't quite remember where he got his, I think from another guy who originally got it from Japan along with another motor and parts or something like that. There was a guy on the pirate board who was supposed be getting a crate full of 2LTs from overseas and was going to start selling them here. Do a search over there. I'm not sure whatever happened.


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Re: Snow wheeling pics of a diesel 4Runner and myself. [Re: DerekM] #386887 01/26/04 04:22 AM
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I found a 2L-T, and no one seemed interested <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> . It's in this Post . Maybe I should have put an exclamation point in the thread name <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />.
I rebuilt my engine over the summer or I would have thought of buying it myself. I just looked and it didn't even sell <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" />. Maybe if we ask real nice, they would tell us where they got it, or if they could get a few more.


$2300!!!! That's why it didn't sell. A used 2LT shouldn't be priced any higher or at least no much higher than a 22RE in decent shape, in my opinion.


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Re: Snow wheeling pics of a diesel 4Runner and myself. [Re: Brian894X4] #386888 01/26/04 04:28 AM
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I'm getting some factory 3rds with 4.56s cheap, so I'm jumping on it. I don't really mind the 4.10s, except trying to crawl offroad. My truck is probably significantly lighter than yours with no winch or custom rear bumper, and I only carry recovery gear when I go offroad. I think a small 33 would be okay with the 4.56s.

Thanks for your input


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Re: Snow wheeling pics of a diesel 4Runner and myself. [Re: Brian894X4] #386889 01/26/04 09:10 AM
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It's been layed up for a while with all the mods and this was basic the maiden run with the current mods.


Yeah, I saw Ed's rig about 6 months ago, when it was still gas engined, 34?x9.50's, and the diesel and tranny sittin' in the garage. Honestly, I didn't think it would come together that quickly. He's really done a nice job, looks real clean.

Tom


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